Make Me An Atheist.

[Theland]

Can you convince me of the truth of Atheism?
Quote references from scientists, philosophers, theologians or anybody you like, but anything except an unsupported personal opinion.
Please?

[HansUrbancka]

Khandro....You are doing a Theland. In other words you are avoiding questions by making reference to what other people say. Speak up for yourself and, as a starter, please attempt an answer to my question posted at 12.54. Or be brave enough to admit Not having one.

Hans

[Khandro]

Hans # you are avoiding questions by making reference to what other people say. #

Yes, quite
If you mean your question about God allowing churches to be damaged, it's so infantile it doesn't warrant an answer.

[naomi24]

Khandro. 14.34, just ask yourself if new born babies have the capability to believe and you have your answer. No delusions - despite what your philosophers say.

[andy-hughes]

Naomi - that's the point Pixie made, and I seconded, and you refuted as illogical, and now you are agreeing with it - ?

[pixie374]

That's standard for naomi towards my posts. I ignore the first response, as it usually ends up with her confirming the same sooner or later.

[Atheist]

Theland, do you kknow what Dawkins wrote about his
position in atheism on a scale of 1 to 7 (1 = I know that there is a god; 7 = I know that there is not a god.) He said he was a 6, which is where I would put myself, and possibly many atheists would do the same. You cannot prove a negative assertion, so all I can do is state my best assessment. I don't claim to be infallible or right in my assessment.

[HansUrbancka]

Khandro.....You and Theland certainly sing from the same hymn sheet.

You haven't got an answer to my question, have you 'big man'.? Hence a non reply, but a stupid response.

Hans.

[Khandro]

Hans: My intel. on the torching of Notre Dame de Paris is that it was done by a deranged Islamist workman (shhh!)

What the eff has God got to do with that?

[andy-hughes]

Khandro - // Hans: My intel. on the torching of Notre Dame de Paris is that it was done by a deranged Islamist workman (shhh!)

What the eff has God got to do with that? //

Surely nothing happens on God's earth without his knowledge and tacit agreement? Otherwise he would not be the God you worship, would he?

Unless of course you are suggesting that he gives a swerve to acts of destruction if they are committed by non-Christians?

But then, how would you account for the sacking of the Holy Land by the Crusaders?

Explaining God and Christianity really is a tough job isn't it?

Never mind trying to explain issues like the Notre Dame incident - non-Christian involvement isn't really good enough is it?

I'm so glad you've picked it up rather than me!!

[naomi24]

Khandro, What the eff does God have to do with an Islamist? Do you really need to ask?

[HansUrbancka]

Khandro...What's your take on York Minster. Also there is the question of the fire at St,George's Chapel' Windsor Castle.

Khandro....Is it the case that your God couldn't care less about buildings erected in his name, or that he is unable to prevent such tragedies.

Hans.

[Khandro]

So what we have learnt on this thread is that, despite the advances of 20th century (& earlier) psychology, some posters still believe a new-born child is tabula rasa, & all those who uphold religious beliefs are people who think that God is some kind of giant interventionist puppeteer with the ability to stop maniacs from burning churches.

I wonder why I bother!

[youngmafbog]

Well maybe don't bother. If you are happy and comfortable in your beliefs perhaps keep them to yourself and enjoy them?

Why put yourself though this unless you have a nagging doubt and you feel the need to justify yourself?

[naomi24]

Khandro, //I wonder why I bother! //

Since most of what you post comes straight from other people, I wonder why you bother too.

[andy-hughes]

Khandro - // I wonder why I bother! //

Since all you do is preach your beliefs endlessly, then ignore sensible reasonable questions, then get really nasty with people who prick holes in your nonsense, then whine and play the martyr, and then go round the entire rigmarole again ad nauseum -

i wonder why you bother as well.

[andy-hughes]

Khandro - // all those who uphold religious beliefs are people who think that God is some kind of giant interventionist puppeteer with the ability to stop maniacs from burning churches. //

If God can create the universe, and raise his son from the dead, i would think that saving a building dedicated to his worship would hardly be a stretch - but apparently it was, and will be again.

Any ideas why - and I ask that, safe in the knowledge that you could no more stop posting your endless nonsense on here, than cut off your legs with a rusty tin lid.

[HansUrbancka]

Khandro.....In your posting at 13.10 today you have given me thought that you disapprove of people who, in your own words, " think that God is some kind of giant interventionist puppeteer with the ability to stop maniacs from burning churches". Permit me therefore to ask "Who created the maniacs." ? Do you still believe that God created everyone in his image. ?

Hans.

[Khandro]

Of course not, I don't think even the pope thinks that, but what I want to know is where I am supposed to be quoting other people?

[HansUrbancka]

Khandro...Please explain what to me appears to be a Riddle from you, involving the Pope.

Hans

[Khandro]

Imago Dei ("image of God") It's pretty basic theological stuff Hans, I'm not running a bible class here, look it up, I'm sure there's a Wikipedia page on it all.