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anotheoldgit | 10:39 Thu 14th Mar 2019 | News
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It has been announced that another man has been arrested over the murder of Jodie Chesney.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-6806219/Man-18-person-charged-murder-Jodie-Chesney-17.html

The next day of Jodie's murder it was announced that a 17 year old young man, named Yousef Makki was also murdered, does anyone know if anyone has been arrested over his murder?

https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/knife-bloodbath-claims-grammar-schoolboy-14083067

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This is a C&P from an OP earlier
//https://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/news/crime/worlds-end-monster-angus-sinclair-14121144

This monster was let in and out of Prison faster than a fiddler's elbow for various murders and rapes where he received so called life sentences but was released to re- commit similar crimes.

If the right-on do gooders had allowed this scum to hang in the first place how many young women will be alive today. Shame on them//

I couldn't sleep well at night if I knew I had releases this multi murderer back into society. I would feel I had let down society and failed to secure their welfare.
If they were my daughters he killed after previous expeditions I would only sleep well if I pulled the trap on him myself.
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andy-hughes

/// I fail to see how murdering someone is an appropriate reaction to them having murdered someone else. ///

I suppose that you would be against retaliation in a war situation, such as refusing to bomb your enemies cities after they have bombed yours.
SparklyKid - // AH
I would suggest that no-one who murders another is in the business of thinking out their actions in advance, and weighing up the pros and cons of the consequences were they to be caught and convicted.

10:26 Thu 14th Mar 2019


That makes no sense. The young woman was killed in a deliberate attack. These feral knife attackers have no place in our society and should be removed, ie, killed. //


That does not contradict what I said.

The killer may have set out with the express intention of committing a murder, but that still does not indicate that they engaged a serious thought process, in advance, about the consequences for them if caught. That would have prevented the murder taking place - so clearly no thoughts along those lines took place.
"without fear of being pulled up. "


Yeah the only fear though, is if you've got drugs or a weapon. So search em lol.

Andy it was a joke ;)
retrocop - // This is a C&P from an OP earlier
//https://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/news/crime/worlds-end-monster-angus-sinclair-14121144

This monster was let in and out of Prison faster than a fiddler's elbow for various murders and rapes where he received so called life sentences but was released to re- commit similar crimes.

If the right-on do gooders had allowed this scum to hang in the first place how many young women will be alive today. Shame on them//

I couldn't sleep well at night if I knew I had releases this multi murderer back into society. I would feel I had let down society and failed to secure their welfare.
If they were my daughters he killed after previous expeditions I would only sleep well if I pulled the trap on him myself. //

Your reaction in that case would be one of revenge, but as I have pointed out, that is not how society frames and enacts its laws.

The failure of the court and prison system should be addressed in that area, not by a simple reaction of killing people because it's easier and cheaper.
ah, //The killer may have set out with the express intention of committing a murder, but that still does not indicate that they engaged a serious thought process, in advance, about the consequences for them if caught.//

That assumes that capital punishment is regarded as a deterrent, but that isn't how I regard it. Its a solution - a permanent one.
AOG - // I suppose that you would be against retaliation in a war situation, such as refusing to bomb your enemies cities after they have bombed yours. //

The current exchange involves the morality of Capital Punishment, I am not willing to engage you in side-tracking while I discuss thoughts you imagine I possess about a scenario which is not connected to the discussion.
I do wish AH would stop confusing the meaning of "revenge"

Try appropriate punishment to fit the crime, not a particularly difficult concept.
Naomi - // ah, //The killer may have set out with the express intention of committing a murder, but that still does not indicate that they engaged a serious thought process, in advance, about the consequences for them if caught.//

That assumes that capital punishment is regarded as a deterrent, but that isn't how I regard it. Its a solution - a permanent one. //

Indeed it does - and now that you have stated your position, and we are at direct odds, I suggest we gain nothing by personally exchanging further, since our views are set and unlikely to be altered.
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andy-hughes

/// I would suggest that no-one who murders another is in the business of thinking out their actions in advance, and weighing up the pros and cons of the consequences were they to be caught and convicted. ///

I disagree, it is why we have laws, don't you think that there would be more murders if it was not a crime?
Don't you think that there would be more robberies if one knew they wouldn't be punished?
Some criminals class a chance of spell in jail is worth taking a risk for, but if they knew they could be hanged for their crime, they would have second thoughts.
"we could always ship em to Aus like in the good old days"

We already turn a blind eye to them going abroad to commit crimes, then deny any responsibility for them. I see a clear role for the expansion of foreign holidays for convicted criminals, although I'm not sure how the splutter press would cope.
SparklyKid - // I do wish AH would stop confusing the meaning of "revenge"

Try appropriate punishment to fit the crime, not a particularly difficult concept. //

Ironically, I believe it is you who has the two concepts confused.

I have explained what I see as the difference between the two earlier, and I see no reason to repeat myself.

If you disagree, or fail to understand what I have said, then there is nothing I can do about that.
ah, no need to make a special point of telling me you won't speak to me further. All you need to do is ... stop.
.a 17 year old young man, Yousef Makki was murdered, does anyone know if anyone has been arrested over his murder?

yes - mentioned here:

https://www.theanswerbank.co.uk/News/Question1649012.html

the two kids charged were from St Posh's down the rd

and the poster went thro the usual AB ritual of vacantly and gormlessly asking insistently
who dat den - where St Posh's den - I dont believe any skool is actually called St Posh, I dont fink there ever was a saint of that name
until even the AB moderator -renowned for patience and acquiescence - reported fatigue at the complaints

you can read the thread yourself AOG
oh!
I mean you can re-read the thread AOG - it was your thread.
//Your reaction in that case would be one of revenge, but as I have pointed out, that is not how society frames and enacts its laws. //

Total nonsense
To execute this man in the first place is not revenge. It is an absolute deterrent. Obviously having two life sentences and being released to kill and rape further did not deter him or rehabilitate and young civilised members of your utopian society lost their lives as a result.
AOG - // Some criminals class a chance of spell in jail is worth taking a risk for, but if they knew they could be hanged for their crime, they would have second thoughts. //

But the circumstances are different.


Plenty of criminals do indeed accept prison as an acceptable risk, although again I doubt they actually analyse the concept in detail.

But people don't murder as a career - it is (with the exception of the psychopath, which is a different discussion) the action of an instant, without thought of consequences, and in the vast majority of cases, it is a single act only.

So your analysis, in my view, does not stand up to scrutiny.
naomi - // ah, no need to make a special point of telling me you won't speak to me further. All you need to do is ... stop. //

I didn't say I won't speak to you further, which implies an element of anger on my part, I merely suggested that our exchange on this subject had reached a natural end - nothing more that that.
Stop then.
retrtocop - // To execute this man in the first place is not revenge. It is an absolute deterrent. //

To whom is it a deterrent?

Obviously not to the convicted individual, and statistical evidence points to the fact that it is not a deterrent to anyone else either.

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