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Another Man Arrested Over Jodie Chesney's Murder.

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anotheoldgit | 10:39 Thu 14th Mar 2019 | News
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It has been announced that another man has been arrested over the murder of Jodie Chesney.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-6806219/Man-18-person-charged-murder-Jodie-Chesney-17.html

The next day of Jodie's murder it was announced that a 17 year old young man, named Yousef Makki was also murdered, does anyone know if anyone has been arrested over his murder?

https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/knife-bloodbath-claims-grammar-schoolboy-14083067

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Naomi - // Stop then. //

I will.

DOH!!
spath - // Andy it was a joke ;) //

What was a joke?
It's not a deterrent - it's a solution.
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andy-hughes

You mentioned 'side tracking' my thread is about the murders of Jodie Chesney and Yousef Makki, not the reintroduction of capital punishment of which you are perfectly happy to voice your pennies worth over.
// I suppose that you would be against retaliation in a war situation, such as refusing to bomb your enemies cities after they have bombed yours.//

or er as Shameem said: there was no difference to bombing Bargooz and bombing the manchester arenee !
Yikes boys and gurlz - call MI5 ! we have an octogenarian jihadist mole grooming the gullible and biddable Abers

FOr the record: unrestricted aerial civilican bombing WAS considered a war crime ( so noin answer, I WOULDN'T support it) -
and Goering in defence ( Edda his d has just died by the way) said: "come on come on - the allies were doing it" so the charges were not proceeded with.

jsut for the record: " On May 2, 1945, President Truman appointed Supreme Court Justice Robert H. Jackson as US chief prosecutor in the proposed trials of Nazi war criminals."
and screwed his own reputation as a result of his incompetence in cross examination of Goering.
( over I think unrestricted warfare against civiliams)

Apolz for some very very long sentences and difficult facts in this post ....

"That assumes that capital punishment is regarded as a deterrent, but that isn't how I regard it. Its a solution - a permanent one."

If the Guildford Four or Stefan Kiszko had been put to death, who would then face the death penalty for their killings? The individual police officers who hid or fabricated evidence, the expert witnesses who supported the police case, the senior officers who did not have a sufficient grasp, the Home Secretaries who presided over the miscarriages of justice, or the public who voted in favour of capital punishment and, therefore, against the fundamental right to life?
Barking up the wrong tree here...

The debate is not a serious discussion about tackling knife crime and its causes.

Like many crimes discussed on here it centres on the merits of capital punishment.

If we were made aware of the formation of a think-tank across many sectors raised by the Government to tackle it and all they came up with was capital punishment we would feel very short changed indeed....
//To whom is it a deterrent? //
I would of thought that was patently obvious.
You rape and then murder and you hang. You never murder again. Finale
You rape and murder and receive a 'Life' sentence. You are released and rape and murder again.
You receive more sentencing for imprisonment and you are again released into a civilised society to carry on murdering.
Imprisonment was an expensive failure at the cost of the lives of innocent young girls.
c

"What was a joke?"

The ship em to aus comment
// "we could always ship em to Aus like in the good old days" //

o god has anyone turned their brain on today before posting?
transportation was never used for murder ...
jesus normal day on AB
agchris i honestly think enforced stop and search is the way forward. Also metal detectors on the streets like pop up ones.
AOG - // You mentioned 'side tracking' my thread is about the murders of Jodie Chesney and Yousef Makki, not the reintroduction of capital punishment of which you are perfectly happy to voice your pennies worth over. //

The aspect of Capital Punishment is the direction the thread has taken, and I am happy to go along with it - if you are not, then by all means report your concerns to the Editor.

However, discussing your vivid imaginings on my thoughts about an entirely different scenario leads only one way, as you and I both know, so for the sake of the thread (which I think belongs to all of us), as advised, I will not be pursuing your baseless imagined reaction to a different situation entirely.
// The debate is not a serious discussion about tackling knife crime and its causes. //

yeah but no but
we have had some stunningly crass comments over
rape murder Brexit ( of course ! ) terrorism, transportation and Nuremberg .....
spath - // "What was a joke?"

The ship em to aus comment //

Thank you for clarifying - personally I don't think a thread about murder, with a developing debate about capital punishment, is an appropriate location for humour.
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andy-hughes

/// I will not be pursuing your baseless imagined reaction to a different situation entirely. ///

The usual response which most of us have come to expect from you, when you are defeated in argument.
"Thank you for clarifying - personally I don't think a thread about murder, with a developing debate about capital punishment, is an appropriate location for humour."

Well, not everyone always thinks the same. I personally think capital punishment is a moot focal point.
In America, there are states with and without the death penalty. This link shows the comparative murder rates by year.
https://deathpenaltyinfo.org/deterrence-states-without-death-penalty-have-had-consistently-lower-murder-rates

If capital punishment is a deterrent, why are muder rates consistently lower in the states without that penalty?
retrocop - // //To whom is it a deterrent? //
I would of thought that was patently obvious.
You rape and then murder and you hang. You never murder again. Finale //

Then, by definition, that is not a deterrent!

deterrent
noun [ C ] uk ​ /dɪˈter.ənt/ us ​ /dɪˈter.ənt/

C2 something that deters people from doing something:
a nuclear deterrent
Tougher prison sentences may act/serve as a deterrent to other would-be offenders.
AOG - // andy-hughes

/// I will not be pursuing your baseless imagined reaction to a different situation entirely. ///

The usual response which most of us have come to expect from you, when you are defeated in argument. //

I am not 'defeated' in the slightest - I am simply not indulging your flights of fancy by discussing with you your imaginings on what I think about scenario that is miles away from the discussion in place.

I am trying to avoid this thread being derailed - how about you meet me half-way and drop this now - ?
spath - // "Thank you for clarifying - personally I don't think a thread about murder, with a developing debate about capital punishment, is an appropriate location for humour."

Well, not everyone always thinks the same. I personally think capital punishment is a moot focal point. //

That does not gainsay the point I made - yet again.

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