Brexit?

[ynnafymmi]

Anyone know how this Brexit carry-on is doing.(Just asking for a friend).No empty shelves,no rationing of petrol,no asking back all these nasty Europeans we told to *** off back to their own countries or anything?As i said just asking for a friend.

[emmie]

which is what i said, that overall 5 million applied for settled status. Many of whom are from the EU.

[webbo3]

ynnafymmi

\\For a start we have £18 billion we can pump into the NHS,emmie.So why am i being asked to pay more national insurance to pay for the NHS.Where has the promised £350 million a week(as promised on the side of a bus)disappeared to?//


What promise, show me the promise.

[sevenOP]

ichi : "It’s the usual story: do we want the services at a good price or do we want better pay but higher prices."

The second "we" and the first "we" are two different groups.

Customers (the Public) are encouraged ( = inculcated) into self-interested glee at paying the lowest price they can get (docile minion pacification), whereas in a fair world customers would pay the actual, externalities adjusted, market value price (unless subsidization by government was necessary for prevention of starvation/ mass social revolt),
and some workers treated as unskilled, lack of the right qualifications, low social status so pay them as little s possible, menial inconsequentials, should be paid their true market and civic worth.

[theshedman]

If they do bring in drivers from the EU then they should be employed on the same terms and wages as drivers here and not for firms to use as cheap labour as has happened in the past and put UK drivers either out of work or leave the profession because of low wages. If there is no advantage to using overseas labour they may start to have to pay a decent wage and get more locals to think about driving HGV for a living.

[ynnafymmi]

Thanks for your input,NJ.However,fine words butter no parsnips.The departure of thousands of EU workers here in Britain has caused massive problems all round.Johnson and his bunch of incompetents have only compounded the problem.Now they have the cheek to plead for the EU workers they threw out to come back to Britain.Jesus wept.

[gulliver1]

10.15 Boris was initially a remainer... correct .
Until he saw his chance to fulfill his boyhood dream of being the PM and siezed the opportunity by doing his first U turn and became a leaver.
P/S... The sooner Boris leaves the better.

[Peter Pedant]

// whereas in a fair world customers would pay the actual, externalities adjusted, market value price //

yeah that is the bit I dont understand
pay them more and they will turn up ( and deliver!)

instead everyone sits around and agonises about how to get them to work for peanuts ....

[ynnafymmi]

@10.24.Was written on the side of a red bus.I dont do links.Look it up yourself.

[Ken4155]

TCL; so it did. Where i got November from, i know not :-(

[naomi24]

//Was written on the side of a red bus//

There was no 'promise' written on the side of the bus. Who do you think made a 'promise'?

[AuntPG]

Andrew Marr this morning interviewing transport secretary Grant Shapps . Shapp stated 'well of course shortages of drivers is a direct result of Brexit'. Maybe not exactly those words, and I tried to get a transcript but maybe later on today. He admitted Driver shortages, with the resulting temporary shortages of fuel and some foods, are a direct result of Brexit. So well done all you Brexiteers -you won! Now collect your prizes....oh sorry they've all been delayed...in a layby north of Portsmouth waiting for an HGV driver. There should be some shortly though -5000 coming over from the very place Brexiteers sent them back to lol!

[Peter Pedant]

// The second "we" and the first "we" are two different groups.//

this is distinguished in the Cree verb system

1p exclusive (we, but not you): nimîcisonân
Verb, VAI: mîcisow
1p inclusive (all of us, including you): kimîciso...
2p (you all): kimîcisonâwâw

just saying just saying for chrissakes
it is a quiet sunday

[ynnafymmi]

@10.34.Something about £350 million,i think.Perhaps i dreamt it......something about spending £350 million a week towards the NHS.Nah,i must have dreamt it...

[emmie]

Boris may well have been a remainer, but he and his team got it done, as in the vote the country was asked to sign up to was unanimous. Democracy won the day.

[naomi24]

APG, //Maybe not exactly those words, and I tried to get a transcript but maybe later on today. He admitted Driver shortages, with the resulting temporary shortages of fuel and some foods, are a direct result of Brexit. //

I look forward to reading that transcript. It's not what the BBC is saying about the interview.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-58696999

[naomi24]

ynna, wakey, wakey! I'll ask again. Why do you think it was a 'promise' and who do you think promised it?

[webbo3]

It said and I quote.
"we send the EU £350 a week, lets fund our NHS instead, vote leave."

Lets...
As in Lets have fish and chips on saturday.
Lets go to Spain on holiday next year.
Lets....
its a suggestion.

[archibaldy]

The haulier shortage is obviously directly related to Brexit, as reversing the Brexit legislation related to work visas is the way that the government is attempting to fix it. To say it's the fault of companies not being able to deal with Brexit is incorrect, Brexit was always going to cause problems for businesses however these were billed as necessary collateral damage to the larger cause of 'Sovereignty", which unfortunately doesn't drive lorries.

Would be nice if we had some tangible benefits of Brexit to offset some of the problems it's causing.

[ynnafymmi]

Your unanimous must be different from my unanimous,emmie.I would hardly call 48.5% against 51.5% unanimous.Highly problematic i would call it.

[AuntPG]

Naomi I don't need links because -unlike you- I listened to the interview live and rewound it, thinking 'I bet he wished he just hadn't said that'. The total interview was a car crash.