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An Excellent Proposal From The Government.
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Some may say it infringes on our liberty, but what sort of a liberty is it that soon gets you addicted and takes years off your life?
Working to eliminate smoking is a very good thing.
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While uncomfortable at the state telling folk what they can do to themselves, there are clearly limits that should be set to help those unable to help themselves save them from harm. IMO this is one of those situations.
Good to read it isn't the act of smoking that is likely to be made illegal first, but the suggestion is that supply be targeted as illegal in the hope that is sufficient. However it would be interesting to see if organised crime simply starts supplying the drug instead.
Years ago the Canadian Government taxed tobacco to the hilt. My sister and husband did what every other Canadian smoker did. They bought fake fags from the Indians, made on a industrial scale on the reservations. They were foul and actually contained wood chippings amongst other objects. The Government lost so much revenue they reintroduced the brands at a lesser price and everybody was quids in.My Sister and her Husband both died sucking oxygen from a cylinder due to smoking related illnesses but they only drained their own resources and money as they hadn't bothered with OHIP.(Onatario Health Insurance Plan). No NHS in Canada.
It's tricky.
There has to be a balance between the health of the nation, and infringement of choices.
I do think that smoking and vaping are ridiculous habbits - people look like they are sucking a dummy.
But I do have to balance that against the right of people to do as they wish, within reason.
I would advocate education, rather than draconian legislation.
If you can pursuade someone that smoking and vaping are bad for them, rather than simply trying to stop them, which rarely succeeds, then you can eventually erradicate the habbit.
There is no quick fix, but we are certainly on the way - when I was growing up, I was in a seriously small minority as a non-smoker, now i am in the majority, and the majority is growing.
It will take time, but we will get there.
there are clearly limits that should be set to help those unable to help themselves save them from harm.
excellent example old good sense from AB stalwart !
BUT.... the whole of criminal law concerns making people do ( not do) things others dont want
victimless crimes, taking heroin, driving on th wrong side of the road, parking outside a policeman's house
It will take time, but we will get there. - god that sounds like the Old Man at little Nells death-bed in The Old Curiosity Shop.
Years ago the Canadian Government taxed tobacco to the hilt.
Years ago the NEnglish govt taxed gin to the hilt - to prevent "drunk for a penny and dead drunk for tuppence" - that is a tax to limit consumption.
The Gin Act 1736 taxed retail sales at a rate of 20 shillings a gallon on spirits and required licensees to take out a £50 annual licence to sell gin, a fee equivalent to about £8,000 today. The aim was to effectively prohibit the trade by making it economically unfeasible.
blimey that is a lorra lorra tax !
I posted this OP a few weeks ago.
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This was my OP. No one could contradict what I said.
In a few replies recently on this website, there has been the usual exaggerated hysteria about passive smoking. Passive smoking is not harmful to anyone. The proof of this is all around. It's called Baby Boomers. We are being told that we are the healthiest generation ever, and will live longer than any previous generation.
We were born at a time when 82% of men, and 64% of women were smokers. Smoking was everywhere. At your grandparents; your aunt and uncles' house; your friends' house; the cinema; public transport, when hardly anyone had a car. At school, the teachers smoked in the canteen at break times. One teacher used to send me to the local shop to buy him 20 Sweet Afton and he smoked during lessons. Lots of mothers were smokers whilst carrying children through pregnancy.
Then there was the rationing to contend with, which didn't end till 1954, whilst we were living in slums next to bombed out buildings from the war.
Then there was all the smogs of the early 50's, especially in London, but we are now told that we were the lucky generation. Ha ha!
Don't mis-understand. I am not advocating smoking. I don't smoke but the hysteria about passive smoking is ridiculous. I know it's not pleasant and we'll get all the usual replies about peoples' clothes smelling of smoke etc., and someones' mum or dad had problems because of passive smoking, but it wasn't the passive smoke that was the problem. It was allergies. Yep, allergies. And, no-one has ever been certified as dying because of passive smoke from cigarettes. I can see all the eyes rolling and the hear all the howls but when you've been brainwashed by the meeja for years, I wouldn't expect anything else.
It's alcohol, drugs and gambling that cause all the problems in this country, not smoking or passive smoking.
Time for brekky. Full English. Yummy!
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