Homeless Refugees

[Canary42]

We mustn't forget that what we are "celebrating" tomorrow is the homeless refugee couple having to spend the cold and frosty night in a barn for their baby's birth.

Today the Little Englanders would rather see them drowned in the Mediterranean.

[Jackdaw33]

Nailit, there was no need for your comment @20.32. Just because you no longer believe does not entitle you to belittle those who do.

[Theland]

I sometimes wonder if I am harming anybody?

[Mamyalynne]

There is no need to corner the market in anything, nor the need to browbeat a 'flavour of' from someone - just follow your belief or non belief to the best you can. There is so much angst and baiting on these pages from many angles, it's quite distressing at times to read.

Happy New Year, good health and happiness.

[Theland]

Thank you Mamya.

[naomi24]

Theland, Daniel B Wallace, has access to the same information as everyone else…. and in his eagerness to support his agenda he makes mistakes. ;o)

//I sometimes wonder if I am harming anybody?//

Stop fishing. Only a fool would give you the satisfaction of biting.

[andy-hughes]

Theland - // Again, I think Naomi has an agenda, and carefully selects her so called evidence to fit that agenda.
Her statements would not stand up to serious historical scrutiny.
But, if it comforts Naomi, let's not spoil her day? //

Mr Pot, may I introduce Mr Kettle?

[Peter Pedant]

// But, if it comforts Naomi, let's not spoil her day?//
no I think Nigh has lost the plot as usual
but hey it's nigh so no change there

[rather an early appeal to Godwins Law I notice but hey this is AB]

[Khandro]

naomi; //...Chesterton whom you also consider to be one of the ‘right’ people//
Some wonder whether there are not good grounds for considering G. K. Chesterton for canonisation even. It has been said that there was 'a special integrity and blamelessness about him, a special devotion to the good and to justice, a special capacity for friendship and for winning the awed respect of an astonishingly diverse range of people and a special memorableness (as so many have testified). Above all, there was that breathtaking, intuitive (almost angelic) possession of the Truth and awareness of the supernatural, which only a truly holy person can enjoy. This was the gift of heroic intelligence and understanding—and of heroic prophecy. He was a giant, spiritually as well as physically. Has there ever been anyone quite like him?'

I have searched in my quote bag, but I can't think of many 20th century figures who would warrant such praise, can you?

[naomi24]

Khandro, //Some wonder whether there are not good grounds for considering G. K. Chesterton for canonisation even.//

That made me laugh out loud … seriously. Do yourself and the rest of us a favour. Ditch your quote bag.

[Theland]

Naomi - Fishing? No, sorry.
Your constant assertions do not amount to proof of anything, other than your determination to always be right, in your own eyes.
I'm glad you find yourself and your opinions so comforting.
Enjoy yourself. Literally, yourself.

[1ozzy]

Peace, love and mung beans, brothers and sisters.

Happy what ever to all!

[naomi24]

Theland, You sometimes wonder if you're harming anybody - and you're waiting for a deluge of readers to tell you you're not. Yes, you're fishing.

I've never claimed to have proof.... I just have ideas that don't suit you.

[Davemano]

To get back to the heading, the reason they were in the barn, was because there was no room at the inn, which is quite understandable because everywhere would be booked up with it being Christmas.

[Baldric]

Well spotted Dave.

[vulcan42]

Theland " Your constant assertions do not amount to proof of anything".
Look in the mirror the next time you say that.

[sanmac]

Davemano, what an excellent answer...One of the best I've ever read!

[Theland]

Vulcan - What have I asserted?

[vetuste_ennemi]

Naomi, I defy you to read Chesterton's "Heretics" (which I read as a twenty -year old and reread when I retired) and not enjoy his attack on modernism, the trendy lefties of the period (including Shaw, whom GK obviously admired) and the fashionable fads of the time. (Example: every[i lefty in those days was [i]for] eugenics - Wells, Shaw, Keynes, the whole kit and caboodle

The book supports - in spirit he apocryphal attribution to Chesterton of the quote "when people stop believing in God they will start believing in anything

[Theland]

Davemano - maybe Bethlehem were playing Nazareth the next day in the Judea cup?
We can only speculate.
Or Herods sales had started?

[1ozzy]

09:57 Tue 25th Dec 2018 on this thread.

Sorry Dave, you were beaten to the punch.

That excuse was already given, but, gratefully accept the current accolades ;-/