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Further Vindication For Lord Farage......
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....poor hymie will be off to Stans!
....poor hymie will be off to Stans!
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His statements were not racist in my opinion with regards to Romanians. He had stated he has no problem with Europe or Europeans. His only problem was the EU and how it operated and expected the UK to operate. It's a matter Hymie how you want to spin it and take what he says out of context.
//In a 2014 interview on the LBC radio station, Farage said that he would feel "concerned" if a group of Romanian men moved next door to him. When interviewer James O'Brien inquired what would be the difference between Romanian men moving next door and a group of German children, in reference to Farage's German wife and children, Farage replied: "You know the difference."[258][259][260] He later expanded on this on the UKIP website, stating that "if we were able to operate a proper work permit scheme for Romanian nationals, with suitable checks, as recommended by UKIP, then nobody would need to be concerned if a group of Romanian nationals moved in next door to them."[261]//
//In a 2014 interview on the LBC radio station, Farage said that he would feel "concerned" if a group of Romanian men moved next door to him. When interviewer James O'Brien inquired what would be the difference between Romanian men moving next door and a group of German children, in reference to Farage's German wife and children, Farage replied: "You know the difference."[258][259][260] He later expanded on this on the UKIP website, stating that "if we were able to operate a proper work permit scheme for Romanian nationals, with suitable checks, as recommended by UKIP, then nobody would need to be concerned if a group of Romanian nationals moved in next door to them."[261]//
Hymie
Mr Farage did not say that. You did. Mr Farage raised concern, at the time of a house full of Romanian men moving next to him.
Mr Farage does his research and does not pluck numbers out of a hat.
Perhaps you could take the time to read the figures from Europol.
I might be a little concerned about the bone fides of a group of men from Romania moving next to me considering their considerable involvement in organised crime. Drugs, Robbery and sex worker trafficking, ATM theft et al.
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Mr Farage did not say that. You did. Mr Farage raised concern, at the time of a house full of Romanian men moving next to him.
Mr Farage does his research and does not pluck numbers out of a hat.
Perhaps you could take the time to read the figures from Europol.
I might be a little concerned about the bone fides of a group of men from Romania moving next to me considering their considerable involvement in organised crime. Drugs, Robbery and sex worker trafficking, ATM theft et al.
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The 40 page Coutts report stated that as a result of Farage’s mortgage coming to an end he would be too poor to hold an account with them – Farage has never contradicted this.
NatWest made a complete hash of this – had they just said Farage is lying (as usual), that would have been the end of the matter (unless the liar wanted to lie more).
But I’m still wondering if ‘No Blacks or Irish’ would be OK?
NatWest made a complete hash of this – had they just said Farage is lying (as usual), that would have been the end of the matter (unless the liar wanted to lie more).
But I’m still wondering if ‘No Blacks or Irish’ would be OK?
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//NatWest made a complete hash of this – had they just said Farage is lying (as usual), that would have been the end of the matter (unless the liar wanted to lie more).//
No it wouldn’t have been the end of the matter. The 40 page document you continually refer to is not a report in the true sense. It is a record (a diary if you like) of the bank’s observations on Mr Farage’s behaviour and attitudes. It maintains personal information about him which is neither necessary for the bank to hold in order to carry out its activities nor a desirable practice to undertake on a customer. That was the essence of Mr Farage’s complaint from the outset. The bank has apologised for this to NF, its CEO has apologised for passing misleading (and confidential) information to the BBC and has resigned and the boss of the Coutts division has done likewise. The Chairman of Natwest is under pressure to go and it is only because he is a particularly stubborn individual and tends to wallow in his own entitlement that he has not. The government (who can be no particular friend of Mr Farage) has commented that it believed the bank’s activities were unethical. The bank has commissioned an independent review of its practices and the Information Commissioner is also likely to undertake an investigation to establish whether any data protection laws have been broken. All this taken together seems to indicate that you are wrong and instead of simply accepting that fact, you continue to defend a point that is lost. So you’ve wisely (some would say deceitfully) diverted the thread away from its original topic and moved on to your allegation that Mr Farage is racist.
//So no Blacks or Irish here (everyone else welcome) is OK?//
No it isn't OK. Nobody on here has said that and, more importantly, neither has Mr Farage..
It is often quoted that "most/all/many" (delete as you wish) people who voted to leave did so because of immigration. That may or may not be true but nobody knows. But what is true is that those who were concerned about immigration were particularly concerned with immigration from the EU as it was uncontrolled and limitless. This was a condition of our membership. The remarks made by Mr Farage, and the attitude held by “people like me” about that topic are not racist. It is not racist to be concerned about uncontrolled immigration; it is not racist to make remarks about the consequences of it which could see, among many other things, a number of Romanians moving in nearby. As I said, it’s not that they are Romanian, it’s because they are here courtesy of the EU’s ridiculous philosophy by which we were bound.
It suits fans of the EU to throw the racist card around when anybody attacks its FoM policy. Personally I believe that policy, along with the Single Currency has done more harm to Europe than just about anything else since WW2. The EU sees those two as their most notable achievements so it is not difficult to understand why there is such a gulf between those who favour the EU and those who do not. Mr Farage did not favour the EU and spent 25 years working to get the UK out. That doesn’t make him – or me – a racist.
No it wouldn’t have been the end of the matter. The 40 page document you continually refer to is not a report in the true sense. It is a record (a diary if you like) of the bank’s observations on Mr Farage’s behaviour and attitudes. It maintains personal information about him which is neither necessary for the bank to hold in order to carry out its activities nor a desirable practice to undertake on a customer. That was the essence of Mr Farage’s complaint from the outset. The bank has apologised for this to NF, its CEO has apologised for passing misleading (and confidential) information to the BBC and has resigned and the boss of the Coutts division has done likewise. The Chairman of Natwest is under pressure to go and it is only because he is a particularly stubborn individual and tends to wallow in his own entitlement that he has not. The government (who can be no particular friend of Mr Farage) has commented that it believed the bank’s activities were unethical. The bank has commissioned an independent review of its practices and the Information Commissioner is also likely to undertake an investigation to establish whether any data protection laws have been broken. All this taken together seems to indicate that you are wrong and instead of simply accepting that fact, you continue to defend a point that is lost. So you’ve wisely (some would say deceitfully) diverted the thread away from its original topic and moved on to your allegation that Mr Farage is racist.
//So no Blacks or Irish here (everyone else welcome) is OK?//
No it isn't OK. Nobody on here has said that and, more importantly, neither has Mr Farage..
It is often quoted that "most/all/many" (delete as you wish) people who voted to leave did so because of immigration. That may or may not be true but nobody knows. But what is true is that those who were concerned about immigration were particularly concerned with immigration from the EU as it was uncontrolled and limitless. This was a condition of our membership. The remarks made by Mr Farage, and the attitude held by “people like me” about that topic are not racist. It is not racist to be concerned about uncontrolled immigration; it is not racist to make remarks about the consequences of it which could see, among many other things, a number of Romanians moving in nearby. As I said, it’s not that they are Romanian, it’s because they are here courtesy of the EU’s ridiculous philosophy by which we were bound.
It suits fans of the EU to throw the racist card around when anybody attacks its FoM policy. Personally I believe that policy, along with the Single Currency has done more harm to Europe than just about anything else since WW2. The EU sees those two as their most notable achievements so it is not difficult to understand why there is such a gulf between those who favour the EU and those who do not. Mr Farage did not favour the EU and spent 25 years working to get the UK out. That doesn’t make him – or me – a racist.
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