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gulliver1 | 09:59 Tue 25th Apr 2023 | News
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MPs have debated the consequences of Brexit for the first time since Britain left the EU. Resulting in the verdict that it was a Disaster.
And that Brexits's impact would be greater than the Pandemic.
The Economy is not growing , The Brits rights and protection are being challenged ,and Britains standing in the world has fallen.
.All this just to have a crown stamp on a beer glass... Was it worth it.
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At least our MPs now appear to acknowledge what an absolute disaster Brexit is for the UK – perhaps they will now do something about it.
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Hymie @ 11.11 Yes the MPs have acknowledged what a absolute disaster Brexit is to the UK. but it would appear from the answers on this thread none of the Aber Brexiteers realise how deep that bullet wound in the foot is , seems like they will have to wait until they realise the wound will not heal.
Yes, fire the Remoaner Blob that are holding us back and get on with taking advantage of being out the EU.

The only problem we have is the Blob and a ultra liberal Government.

But one thing I am sure you will agree is a benefit of leaving and that is the useless Government can no longer blame the EU for their failings.
Zzzzzz...
I firmly believe that brexit was a bad decision that was taken for incredibly poor reasons that has caused this country nothing but trouble… it is however irreversible now. Brextremists got must about everything they wanted and they are still not happy, what a surprise…

//Brextremists got must about everything they wanted and they are still not happy//

What's a Brextremist? I don't see people who voted 'Leave' complaining much - just the Remainers.
//Was it this debate? It's the only one I can find recently//

Yes, that is what Gulliver is referring to. The transcript is contained in pages 45-67 of yesterday’s “Hansard”. It was prompted because an online petition, garnered 178,000 signatures. Its proposition was this:

“The benefits that were promised if the UK exited the European Union have not been delivered, so we call upon the Government to hold a Public Inquiry to assess the impact that Brexit has had on this country and its citizens.”

//Resulting in the verdict that it was a Disaster.//

Not quite. As you can see from the above proposition, that was not its purpose. There was no vote and no such "verdict".

//At least our MPs now appear to acknowledge what an absolute disaster Brexit is for the UK – perhaps they will now do something about it.//

Depends what you mean by “our MPs”. The entire debate, such that it was, consisted mainly of a three hour whinge-fest of MPs, eager to tell the nation how many of their constituents have failed to adapt to the requirements of Brexit. I’m surprised Hymie and Gulliver were not invited because essentially the majority of MPs invited to speak simply droned on in a similar fashion to the questions they pose on here. That’s all it was. There were about 25 MPs called to speak and with just three exceptions, they all were obviously avid and discontented Remainers.

The only vaguely constructive contribution from that side of the debate came from Stephen Doughty (Cardiff South and Penarth) (Lab/Co-op), who said this:

“We want to focus on some of the most important tasks today: making our relationship with the EU work; growing our economy; defending our security; and tackling common challenges, from energy to climate change. We will not seek to rejoin the EU, the single market or the customs union, but it is imperative that we make our future relationship with the EU work,…”

So, not unusually, the headline to this question is completely at odds with reality.

The resolution at the end of the debate was “That this House has considered e-petition 628226, relating to the impact of the UK’s exit from the European Union.” So not quite as advertised, and, IMHO, a complete waste of MP’s time.
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“ What's a Brextremist?”

a person who wanted the hardest Brexit possible no matter how much harm it caused the UK

“ I don't see people who voted 'Leave' complaining much”

really? It seems to me that they are never happy
God knows where you’re looking, untitled, but try looking at the authors of the endless stream of whinging threads and posts on here. You’ll find not one is a ‘leave’ voter.
no whingeing from leave voters on the answerbank? are you sure? :)
nope.

but try looking at the authors of the endless stream of whinging threads and posts on here.

Naomi - that is a very insulting way to refer to TTT - ter daah.
human right acts and european courts - oh lardy dah - he complaineth every day

and NJ is always telling us what a paradise on Earth, post brexit britain is

Untitled, I can’t think of any ‘leavers’ who post as the sour remainers do about Brexit - but if you know differently perhaps you’ll enlighten us all.
"it is however irreversible now'

Good
//..and NJ is always telling us what a paradise on Earth, post brexit britain is//

Actually NJ is always telling us nothing of the sort. All NJ is saying is that he is deliriously happy because the UK is no longer a member of the EU. He's not over fussed whether, as a result, the UK is a paradise on Earth or not. It wasn't whilst we were in the EU and I see no reason to see why it should be now we've left.
I'm still waiting for the long overdue EU Audit reports that have not been disclosed. Considering we paid a larger club membership because we were told we were a rich country. I suppose now we have left it explains why the French are re-enacting the French Revolution on the streets as we speak. Macron has not the funds to pay his pensioners :-) Meanwhile all those motorway standard roads newly built on the small Isle of Malta will decline into potholes as ours have done.
I don't comment much on here but I see a lot of these threads. Can someone tell me, is there an urge to rejoin the EU generally?
I think I voted Brexit for much the same reasons as NJ. My thoughts haven't changed. I never expected things to be perfect - far from it. But I haven't changed my mind, or my reasoning. I still have the same opinions about the EU and how far it has strayed from its original purposes.
//is there an urge to rejoin the EU generally?//

Heck No. Not in my camp. It took a long time for us to be conned into joining this mess by Grocer Heath with promises of wine lakes and butter mountains etc. I wish De Gaulle had got his way and refused us entry in the first place. It wasn't called the European Union then.
It was hard to get into and this country will not regain it's status overnight but it is still worth us getting out so we no longer subsidise Europe's mess
I agree Retro. Can't say more than that.

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