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Why Do The Journos Keep Whining About The Saudis?

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ToraToraTora | 10:21 Wed 16th Mar 2022 | News
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Yes we know they are barbaric mad mullahs but hello, you sometimes have to deal with bad guys to help the cause against the worse guys. No one will be happier than me when we reduce our reliance on oil and gas but for now we have to hold our noses and get on with it.
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"[Saudi Arabia] are not showing any signs of invading other countries..."

Well, there is their ongoing involvement in the War in Yemen, which is unsavoury at best, although it is at least indirect. I did say that I largely agreed: there's no doubt that Putin's Russia is the far more urgent threat, and in that sense moral sacrifices must be made.

Also, yes, "reliance on anything is a weakness" is clearly true, but in this case it's a particularly acute weakness, because it stymies our ability to hold such countries to account. One reason the sanctions on Russia still haven't gone far enough, for some, is because Western European countries are too dependent on Russian oil to feel able to go any further, both now and when they should have in the past.
Also, he has invaded a country close to home and has actually threatened this country.
No one is saying that the Saudi response to the Houthi insurgency is anything but brutal, and the US has now fallen out with Saudi Arabia over it. At least the Saudis may have some justification for their intervention in the first place, if not for the methods. With Putin, you'd have to be pretty twisted or a Kremlin bot, to see any existential threat, perceived or otherwise, posed by Ukraine to Russia.
We choose to side with the lesser evil against the greater evil, and yes it stinks but there is little choice.
Why is a Saudi bomb on civilians more acceptable than a Russian bomb on civilians?
Interesting comments by the head of the SVR (Russias MI6, sort of) in Moscow today about the future of Russia being at stake "and the future of its children"
Naryshkin was the apparent "wilting violet" in that dreaful Monday night charade three weeks ago when Putin appeared to torment him over what should be done about Ukraine.
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Why is a Saudi bomb on civilians more acceptable than a Russian bomb on civilians? "

It isn't.. Plainly, however, the arguments that are being put to you aren't getting through.
Of course our moral objection to Russian aggression is entirely new. We were happy to to buy their gas when they attacked/invaded Afghanistan, Chechnya, Georgia and South Ossetia.
There's a few others you could add to that.
No what's new is the enormity of the latest action

It would have been great if the sanctions that happened in 2014 had matched what is happening now, but realistically it took something on the scale of Feb 24 and since to kick people into gear.
And I understand that.
We have happily laundered Russian dirty money for 30 years, and brown nose the evil and corrupt Saudi regime. While at the same time shun Iranian and Venezuelan oil.
Gromit //We have happily laundered Russian dirty money for 30 years,//
Where is your proof of that?
We have.
And yes it does defy belief that we have accepted it for so long.
But I guess it's human nature.
We go with the flow until a tidal wave comes along and shocks us out of our complacency.
Conservative MP, Tom Tugendhat MBE VR, Chairman of the Foreign Affairs Committee

// Tugendhat told BBC Radio 4's "Today" program that the UK had a responsibility to act because of London's role in global money laundering.
Speaking from Sarajevo, Bosnia-Herzegovina, he said: "A lot of the dirty money that sadly is causing the instability — both here in Bosnia and indeed in Ukraine and of course in Russia — flows through our markets in London.
"This is an area sadly that has much too much to do with us and we cannot ignore." //

https://www.businessinsider.com/tugendhat-dirty-russian-money-flowing-through-uk-destabilising-ukraine-2022-1?r=US&IR=T
//London's role in global money laundering.
But what does that mean? How do they know that it is dirty money and if they do why have they done nothing about it?
Are you Russian Gromit?
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YMB, no he's just general 5C!
No I am not Russian.

No I am not a Firth columnist.

No I am not a fanboy of failure.
// Yes we know they are barbaric mad mullahs//
well we shouldnt
mullahs are shi'a
Sunnis dont have a hierarchy ( mosques are auto-cephalous)

as eny fule kno
//mullahs are shi'a //

Nonsense.
Hook line and sinker :-)
gromit: If you were to question the probity & act on it, of the farmers who produce your food, of the builders of your house, car, computer & your refrigerator etc.

You'd probably be living alone in a tent on t'moors & living on wild berries.
Ymb,
// Are you Russian Gromit? //

There is nothing on this thread to give you that wrong impression. I disagree with you on most things, but that does not mean I am foreign.

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