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Brexit - What If?
The PM swallows his pride, sends the extension request to Brussels and it's refused (as one French minister has opined). What then?
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Whether or not there is any extension / unity government or whatever if any deal that is acceptable to the EU cannot get approval in Parliament & MPs in their wisdom will not countenance a no-deal then the only alternative is to scrap Brexit & remain in the EU. Just revoke A50 and avoid any further messing about with a "People's Vote" or whatever. In that case the...
10:44 Sat 07th Sep 2019
I'm unconvinced about that since he'd not have had any control. When the system allows the opposition to take control of proceedings and pass legislation that ties the government's hands then we have a farcical situation that ought not arise. Binding actions are arguably not a valid thing to allow. A GE might sort things out, but who knows ? It will depends on who make agreements with who which will affect the final outcome.
Not sure why the EU would refuse, I suspect they will extend to Jan 31.
If they do not, I reckon last minute Johnson will be removed by the House of Commons. He now has a minus 45 majority. And the new interim leader will actually have a plan that the EU will listen to and grant us more time to vote for in the Commons. It might even be May’s deal with the sticky points removed. We will leave on 31st October, and then the proper talks begin.
If they do not, I reckon last minute Johnson will be removed by the House of Commons. He now has a minus 45 majority. And the new interim leader will actually have a plan that the EU will listen to and grant us more time to vote for in the Commons. It might even be May’s deal with the sticky points removed. We will leave on 31st October, and then the proper talks begin.
May’s final deal was never voted on and I believe under the terms of the new Bill it has to be at least published.
Other options for Johnson (he won’t defy the law I’ll tell you that now: it would create a precedent for chaos):
He could try to get UK expelled from the EU by refusing to appoint a new commissioner tho I can see that being very messy.
He could try to pass an election Bill which would only need a straight majority to pass: the other vote presumably will not be held now as plainly a waste of time.
Or he could sack Cummings and start being reasonable: put his or the existing deal back to Parliament and do his utmost to build bridges to the Labour MPs whose votes he needs to get a deal passed, rather than alienating his opponents. Also carry through his threat to suspend the whip from the Brexit ultras if they defy him. He’d be doing the Tory party and all of us a favour if that happened.
In other words try his damnedest to get a workable solution.
Other options for Johnson (he won’t defy the law I’ll tell you that now: it would create a precedent for chaos):
He could try to get UK expelled from the EU by refusing to appoint a new commissioner tho I can see that being very messy.
He could try to pass an election Bill which would only need a straight majority to pass: the other vote presumably will not be held now as plainly a waste of time.
Or he could sack Cummings and start being reasonable: put his or the existing deal back to Parliament and do his utmost to build bridges to the Labour MPs whose votes he needs to get a deal passed, rather than alienating his opponents. Also carry through his threat to suspend the whip from the Brexit ultras if they defy him. He’d be doing the Tory party and all of us a favour if that happened.
In other words try his damnedest to get a workable solution.
The Rumour Mill says he is considering retiring if his election call is rejected. He has managed to paint himself into a corner, and split the party. He still has friends, but many enemies. It is difficult to see how he can carry on without breaking the law, or surrendering.
I would favour a National Government like we had in the thirties and forties comprised of the Opposition and Conservative Parties to rule until Jan 31st 2020, if the EU grant that extension.
I would favour a National Government like we had in the thirties and forties comprised of the Opposition and Conservative Parties to rule until Jan 31st 2020, if the EU grant that extension.
There will be a small window between the refusal of the request and the 31st October. Who knows what Parliament would do with that time? I expect they'd have to give serious thought to revoking Article 50 notification -- it's the only thing consistent with the refusal to countenance a No Deal exit. But what a short-lived victory for Remain that would be.
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