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20'S Not Plenty
Wales has scrapped the 20mph speed limit and reverted to 30
I can see the need for a 20mph limit in some specific areas at specific times but it couldn't work everywhere.
I wonder how much this failed exercise has cost?
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It cost £34million to implement the madness that no one voted for or wanted. There have been 20mph zones outside schools for decades and everybody accepted it as sensible without any quibble. It will probably cost even more to reverse the stupidity and off course the zealists and lycra oddballs are using the cost as an argument not to scrap the mandatory go slow. Meanwhile the roads are like Dodge City as we all have to swerve around the potholes, vital services are being closed down(managers will be moved sideways)and the reason given is that the Councils are short of money. The cycle lanes that cost £millions remain largely unused whilst the bikists ride on the pavements and promenades usually going faster than the cars on the roads especially if they are on the electrickery bikes. Socialist madhouse.
//in reality I think the Labour government have realised there's an election coming up and, if they don't reverse it, they might cease to be the government.//
I hope that is true. Mayor Khan has made nearly all roads in Sutton a 20mph limit including our back street and regardless of vicinity of schools. It is detested by most residents. I hope the Labour mayor suffers for it and ULEZ at the London mayoral election.
bhg481 The most important thing to watch for when driving in Germany is that the mandatory 50kph limit isn't marked as such.
When you enter a built up area the town or village yellow sign is itself the notice for 50kph, likewise as you leave the area the sign on the left side of the road with the name of the town or village with a red stripe through it, tells you that you are leaving the restricted zone - that sign is of course the back of the one for going in.
I picked up quite a few speeding fines when I first moved here not understanding this.
Khandro - yes, the sign bearing the town/city name being the start/end of the speed limit is fairly consistent throughout mainland Europe - the only difference between countries is the limit itself. In the days when we toured western Europe I had all the speed limits (town/single carriageway/dual carriageway/motorway) with and without caravan on a card to make sure we knew what it was for each country. Some countries are more pedantic than others about obeying speed limits eg, the Italians seem to ignore them as much as possible, particularly the further south you go, Corsica is a free-for-all but in San Marino even Italian visitors obey them absolutely. Welcome to the EU, where all member countries (should) have the same rules.
20 is absolute sheeite. Now they need to return all other 20 mph limits back to sanity except where a legitimate case can be made, which will very much be the exception. The cost of the failed exercise ought to be reimbursed by the individuals responsible for it, both the cost of putting it in and of removing it. Once done we can then apply much the same regarding the deleted motorway hard shoulders.
