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Khandro | 11:40 Fri 30th Aug 2019 | News
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One doesn't have to be a woman to empathise with how horrible it must be to be raped, but by these faces it must be even more traumatic.
https://www.breitbart.com/europe/2019/08/30/rotherham-rape-gangs-review-results-six-more-convictions/
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// if it was possible, these pieces of scum should be sent back to where their families came from? //

/// It isn’t possibly, so why would anyone agree with it ? ///

Hanging won't possibly be returned but there are plenty of people who would wish it to be.

But then when I put those words I didn't expect the likes of you to agree that if it was possible they should be sent back.
// Hanging won't possibly be returned but there are plenty of people who would wish it to be. //

excuse me - you have omitted the cocktail sticks under the finger nails and throwing grenades into their cells (as a joke!)
and castration
Well they got a total of 63 years between them PP. Plenty of time for you to resurrect the 2nd coming of the Lord Longford. Bet the poor little lambs will love a sucker giving them succour.
retrocop - // Plenty of time for you to resurrect the 2nd coming of the Lord Longford. //

Lord Longford was delusional, arrogant, foolish, and star-struck.


Myra Hindley played him like a violin, hopefully we will not see his like again.
Yes. I am very much aware of the character of the deluded Longford.
The important questions to me (not necessarily, I conced, to everybody) are how and why criminality on this scale has been allowed flourish for so long in full public view.

This thread and the opinions and moral priorities of many of the posters goes some way to answering those questions.
It was allowed due to many reasons, those with a duty of care - didn't, many of the girls spent a lot of time out of education - that wasn't followed up swiftly or tenaciously.

Many,many more warning signs were ignored.

Have things changed sufficiently enough to feel confident now of no repeat - probably not, but the capture ad sentencing albeit late in the day goes some way towards a deterrent.

As I stated earlier , we all need too be vigilant where out young are concerned.
^ to be
a few things there VE
1. some girls didnt realise they were being abused - 'no he's me boyfriend'
2.after a life in care some were desperate for some affection and kindness ( fags and booze- we are talking basic here)
3.there are times when you blow the whistle and .......
the gate keeper says - "oh god not that again"
4. when called to account some gate keepers ( = those who do nothing) just lie. Yes you wrote me this letter: I didnt see it
or I really dont remember that bit
or I was so so busy
or I wasnt in charge that day/ on holiday/ temporarily dead
and even - - no you didnt say that

clearly I have had a few 4s said to me in a completely different context.
How and why has criminality on this scale been allowed flourish for so long in full public view?

Thank you, MamyaLynne and Peter, for your revealing replies.
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a-h //Lord Longford was delusional, arrogant, foolish, and star-struck.//

No he wasn't, he was a very kind, sensitive man, a devout Christian & believer in redemption.
someone said:
when there is a total cack up
never forget the role of sheer incompetence

Arena bombing, the firemen ran away ( BTP did in 2005 London). The workers asked for an inquiry - surely this is turkeys voting for christmas. When the chief supremo ( fire) was asked by Kerslake why they stayed in their displaced safe warm environment and did nothing
the supremo (fire) said: no one rang ( and said 'come')
and Lord K asked, what really? are you being serious?
[yes he was]

2005 London the BTP locked themselves in their office (overlooking Tavistock Sq., by the way). Arena 2017 we were told they were there within 50s and all of them
2005 when the BTP were asked to explain, they said:
look - here our little red book, "when a bomb goes off lock all the doors ! for YOU may be next and a safe place to work is the first priority!" -so they did. ( hallett inquiry, somewhere)

so in Rotherham child abuse case
was there no one in authority who said - "look we should be doing something these kids ! "
the answer may well have been 'no'
Khandro - I think we can allow the late peer to be a sufficiently complex personality to be everything in your assessment, but also, everything in mine as well.
// No he wasn't, he was a very kind, sensitive man, a devout Christian & believer in redemption.//
not on point Kh
you are being diverted in true AB fashion
//when there is a total cack up never forget the role of sheer incompetence...
...in theRotherham child abuse case was there no one in authority who said - "look we should be doing something these kids ! "//

No, "they" had decided that "we" should be doing nothing for the kids.
Obviously the poster is ignorant both of Andrew Norfolk and his 2014 investigation sponsored by the Times into the scandal.

A Rotherham whistle-blower gave Norfolk documents going back ten, repeat ten years, documenting in detail specific cases of rape and the gangs organising it. Among the documents were police records which included the names, "nicknames" and car registration numbers of participants. Also the addressess of the flats and fast-food joints where the girls were taken. Over one hundred men were named in these reports. This is not incompetence, it is policy

You might care to consider (or maybe ignore, depending on your moral and political sensitivities) the implications of a minority "community" of less than 10,000 people contributing one hundred rape suspects in a town of a quarter of a million.
You might care to consider (or maybe ignore, depending on your moral and political sensitivities) the implications of a minority "community" of less than 10,000 people contributing one hundred rape suspects in a town of a quarter of a million...

...and fifteen hundreed rape victims.

#MeToo. You're 'aving a larf, innit.
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Khandro - // I'm quite happy to remove the my personal comment as the last part of the OP. … //

While you're about it, try removing the first part as well -

// One doesn't have to be a woman to empathise with how horrible it must be to be raped ... //

Actually, 'one' does. How do you think as a man you can empathise with a woman on any level whatsoever?

You can sympathise, but you can't empathise.

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