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One doesn't have to be a woman to empathise with how horrible it must be to be raped, but by these faces it must be even more traumatic.
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// if it was possible, these pieces of scum should be sent back to where their families came from? //
It isn’t possibly, so why would anyone agree with it ?
These middle aged men were in their teens/ early 20s when the offences took place. They may have look different then, than they do now. The girls considered them as their boyfriends before the exploitation started, so there must have been a level of attraction.
But the whole attractiveness of your rapist is immaterial and irrelevant, and offensive. And AOG can even understand that simple fact.
It isn’t possibly, so why would anyone agree with it ?
These middle aged men were in their teens/ early 20s when the offences took place. They may have look different then, than they do now. The girls considered them as their boyfriends before the exploitation started, so there must have been a level of attraction.
But the whole attractiveness of your rapist is immaterial and irrelevant, and offensive. And AOG can even understand that simple fact.
Two quotes from the link in the OP.
First one:
"The law enforcement agency detailed that all of the felons knew the girls were underage and would regularly park outside of the girls’ schools, waiting for them."
And this the second:
"The Home Secretary has ordered research into the ethnicity of grooming gangs...
Sajid Javid said that establishing the 'particular characteristics' of the perpetrators was 'critical to our understanding' of the crimes.".
And a couple of questions.
What does the first quote tell us, if anything, about today's teachers?
And thinking about the second, what do you make of Mr Javid's "research"?
First one:
"The law enforcement agency detailed that all of the felons knew the girls were underage and would regularly park outside of the girls’ schools, waiting for them."
And this the second:
"The Home Secretary has ordered research into the ethnicity of grooming gangs...
Sajid Javid said that establishing the 'particular characteristics' of the perpetrators was 'critical to our understanding' of the crimes.".
And a couple of questions.
What does the first quote tell us, if anything, about today's teachers?
And thinking about the second, what do you make of Mr Javid's "research"?
Khandro, please don't lecture me on rape and its effects. I still don't understand what your intention was with the wording of your opening post.
I have spoken to many rape victims, all were traumatised and some of the most badly affected over the long term were those raped by a family member, including one young man who was raped by an uncle.
I have spoken to many rape victims, all were traumatised and some of the most badly affected over the long term were those raped by a family member, including one young man who was raped by an uncle.
//These middle aged men were in their teens/ early 20s when the offences took place. They may have look different then, than they do now. The girls considered them as their boyfriends before the exploitation started, so there must have been a level of attraction.//
Not impossible, but unlikely that any of the girls considered these particular four as their "boyfriends".
The initial grooming is usually done by a good looking young guy (the "Dangerous Lover Boy") with a flash car and loads of money to chat the girls, who, when he's got her to fall for him , will "introduce" her to his cousins, his uncle and his mates. At this stage she will probably be drinking heavily.
Not impossible, but unlikely that any of the girls considered these particular four as their "boyfriends".
The initial grooming is usually done by a good looking young guy (the "Dangerous Lover Boy") with a flash car and loads of money to chat the girls, who, when he's got her to fall for him , will "introduce" her to his cousins, his uncle and his mates. At this stage she will probably be drinking heavily.
Anyone of a given age has seen similar scenarios to those outlined in the article, even prior to the time slot mentioned (1998-2002).
I certainly saw evidence of it, girls from poorer backgrounds (various reasons) and some from care homes/institution, who were targeted by wide boys wearing the latest fashion and riding the best motorbikes or driving flash cars.
The girls were so desperate to have the supposed love,care and protection that these young men provided, it blinkered them to the dangers.
It never ended well.
In a perfect world all those involved in care of the young would pick up on the danger signals.
We have never had perfection , that doesn't mean we shouldn't try to get closer to it.
I certainly saw evidence of it, girls from poorer backgrounds (various reasons) and some from care homes/institution, who were targeted by wide boys wearing the latest fashion and riding the best motorbikes or driving flash cars.
The girls were so desperate to have the supposed love,care and protection that these young men provided, it blinkered them to the dangers.
It never ended well.
In a perfect world all those involved in care of the young would pick up on the danger signals.
We have never had perfection , that doesn't mean we shouldn't try to get closer to it.
I saw exactly that in the mid 70s onwards, Mamya and even when the girls were reported missing by their parents or the children's homes nothing was done. They were considered to be willing trollops, as I remember one police officer describing a couple of young girls found holed up with their older 'boyfriends'.
I'm quite happy to remove the my personal comment as the last part of the OP, because it is being used as a distraction & being taken as an opportunity to virtue-signal & amazingly, even the source of the accurate report has been condemned by someone who doesn't even read Breitbart's site.
My intention in posting it is only to broadcast further this information, which will as usual, be largely ignored by most of the media.
My intention in posting it is only to broadcast further this information, which will as usual, be largely ignored by most of the media.
// My intention in posting it is only to broadcast further this information, which will as usual, be largely ignored by most of the media. //
Far from being ignored, it was widely covered by all the national press, some regional press, and TV news websites. They did that on Wednesday.
Brietbart is a News Aggregation Service. They scour the internet for newspaper reports that they like, and then rehash them on their pages (making money in advertising for very little work). That is why it took them 2 days to post what the Mail and Express had written when the men were convicted.
Far from being ignored, it was widely covered by all the national press, some regional press, and TV news websites. They did that on Wednesday.
Brietbart is a News Aggregation Service. They scour the internet for newspaper reports that they like, and then rehash them on their pages (making money in advertising for very little work). That is why it took them 2 days to post what the Mail and Express had written when the men were convicted.
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/// But the whole attractiveness of your rapist is immaterial and irrelevant, and offensive. And AOG can even understand that simple fact. ///
Disagree with me all you like but please don't accuse me of saying things that I have not said.
I have made no comment about the none attractiveness of these rapists, if you care to read one of my latest post I said that I thought that the OP could have chosen his words better.
But by your words it seems that you are offended on behalf of these rapists for an ABer being offensive towards them because of their looks.
I think that says more about you than it can ever be said about the OP and myself.
/// But the whole attractiveness of your rapist is immaterial and irrelevant, and offensive. And AOG can even understand that simple fact. ///
Disagree with me all you like but please don't accuse me of saying things that I have not said.
I have made no comment about the none attractiveness of these rapists, if you care to read one of my latest post I said that I thought that the OP could have chosen his words better.
But by your words it seems that you are offended on behalf of these rapists for an ABer being offensive towards them because of their looks.
I think that says more about you than it can ever be said about the OP and myself.
