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George Galloway
Where are you now when your mates are shooting their citizens ?
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He is living in his little dream world like all reasonable sounding extremists . They don't rant and rave but argue in a reasonable way which makes them the most dangerous and even when they are caught out they laugh it off. Remember when he met Saddam Hussain and said how he admired him and described him as a great president . Tony Benn and Ken Livingstone are of a similar type .Tony Blair has similar smooth talking traits. Unfortunately many people fall for this approach especially the do gooders.
They're all at it modeller
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Is that the best you can do jake ? Come on you can do better than that stop scraping the bottom of the barrel. Have you given up on Churchill ? That's who you usually blame.
Was Maggie ever a quiet soft spoken person.meally mouthed person ? She certainly thanked Chile for their help in defeating the Archies. You no doubt would have preferred us to have lost the Falklands war probably on human rights grounds.
Was Maggie ever a quiet soft spoken person.meally mouthed person ? She certainly thanked Chile for their help in defeating the Archies. You no doubt would have preferred us to have lost the Falklands war probably on human rights grounds.
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Remind me why we needed the assistance of a brutal dictator to win the Falklands Mudeller?
Sheep consultant was he?
I think we have a better need to keep Lybia (and whoever happens to be running it) onside than we ever did Chile
You're all for decrying the arab nations but you'll be squeeling like a little piggy-wiggie when you have to pay £2 for a litre of petrol.
Bet your concerns for shot civillians will mysteriously vanish then!
Sheep consultant was he?
I think we have a better need to keep Lybia (and whoever happens to be running it) onside than we ever did Chile
You're all for decrying the arab nations but you'll be squeeling like a little piggy-wiggie when you have to pay £2 for a litre of petrol.
Bet your concerns for shot civillians will mysteriously vanish then!
jake Some of a planes were able to land there when having problems .
// General Pinochet gave Britain "vital" support during the war, most notably in intelligence, which saved British lives. Thatcher claims that the Chilean Air Force often provided Britain with early warning of impending Argentine Air Force attacks. //
Jake surely you can find some mealy mouthed Tories to equal your leftie friends like Galloway ,Benn, Livingston and Blair . Let me help you how about Keith Joseph and
Ted Heath ? Oh I forgot they were your Europhile friends so you couldn't mention them .
// General Pinochet gave Britain "vital" support during the war, most notably in intelligence, which saved British lives. Thatcher claims that the Chilean Air Force often provided Britain with early warning of impending Argentine Air Force attacks. //
Jake surely you can find some mealy mouthed Tories to equal your leftie friends like Galloway ,Benn, Livingston and Blair . Let me help you how about Keith Joseph and
Ted Heath ? Oh I forgot they were your Europhile friends so you couldn't mention them .
From The Conservative Party website
The context for this claim can be traced back to discussions in November 1980, as the following extract from a Times article from November 28th 1980 (and reproduced on the Margaret Thatcher Foundation website) explains:
There is good sense in some of the options which Britain is putting forward on the Falkland Islands, particularly the lease-back formula. Under this plan, sovereignty over the islands would be ceded to Argentina but Britain would lease back the islands, either without a time limit or for say, 99 years. It remains to be seen whether the islanders will agree with this or any of the other ideas which the British Government is canvassing after having taken soundings with the Argentines. The dispute over sovereignty has gone on for more than a hundred years.
Mr Nicholas Ridley, Minister of State at the Foreign Office, who is having talks with the islanders, apparently believes that a solution may be achieved by outright transfer of sovereignty, by transfer and lease back, by freezing the dispute for 25 years, or by taking what would be a drastic step and breaking off talks altogether. An outright transfer would be politically unacceptable. The lease-back idea, on similar lines as for Hong Kong, is the one Whitehall has been suggesting behind the scenes for some time.
Margaret Thatcher But the suggestion that a deal was done, as claimed by Heseltine last night, is a fiction, as explained by Lady Thatcher in her memoirs, The Downing Street Years (pp 175-6). She wrote of the lease-back idea:
"I disliked this proposal, but Nick and I both agreed that it should be explored, subject always to the requirement that the islanders themselves should have the final word. We could not agree to anything without their consent: their wishes must be paramount."
"As I rather expected, none of these diplomatic arguments in favour of lease-back had
The context for this claim can be traced back to discussions in November 1980, as the following extract from a Times article from November 28th 1980 (and reproduced on the Margaret Thatcher Foundation website) explains:
There is good sense in some of the options which Britain is putting forward on the Falkland Islands, particularly the lease-back formula. Under this plan, sovereignty over the islands would be ceded to Argentina but Britain would lease back the islands, either without a time limit or for say, 99 years. It remains to be seen whether the islanders will agree with this or any of the other ideas which the British Government is canvassing after having taken soundings with the Argentines. The dispute over sovereignty has gone on for more than a hundred years.
Mr Nicholas Ridley, Minister of State at the Foreign Office, who is having talks with the islanders, apparently believes that a solution may be achieved by outright transfer of sovereignty, by transfer and lease back, by freezing the dispute for 25 years, or by taking what would be a drastic step and breaking off talks altogether. An outright transfer would be politically unacceptable. The lease-back idea, on similar lines as for Hong Kong, is the one Whitehall has been suggesting behind the scenes for some time.
Margaret Thatcher But the suggestion that a deal was done, as claimed by Heseltine last night, is a fiction, as explained by Lady Thatcher in her memoirs, The Downing Street Years (pp 175-6). She wrote of the lease-back idea:
"I disliked this proposal, but Nick and I both agreed that it should be explored, subject always to the requirement that the islanders themselves should have the final word. We could not agree to anything without their consent: their wishes must be paramount."
"As I rather expected, none of these diplomatic arguments in favour of lease-back had
Isn't it funny how some people can all of a sudden take a high moral principle on these kind of issues ; while at the same time would be the first to complain if they were not able to have the luxuries that they take for granted , day in day out .
The fact is British Governments of all colours have historically done deals with unsavoury characters , when it has been of benefit to the country .
Unfortunately , we cannot still go around weilding the empire stick and pinching the resources of other countries .
We may be an island nation , but GB plc cannot function in the global economy , without having to sometimes , do things , that in an ideal world , we wouldn't .
The fact is British Governments of all colours have historically done deals with unsavoury characters , when it has been of benefit to the country .
Unfortunately , we cannot still go around weilding the empire stick and pinching the resources of other countries .
We may be an island nation , but GB plc cannot function in the global economy , without having to sometimes , do things , that in an ideal world , we wouldn't .
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"As I rather expected, none of these diplomatic arguments in favour of lease-back had much appeal to the islanders themselves. They would have nothing to do with such proposals. They distrusted the Argentine dictatorship and were sceptical of its promises. but more than that, they wanted to remain British. They made this abundantly clear to Nick Ridley when he twice visited them to learn their views. The House of Commons too was noisily determined that the islanders' wishes should be respected. Lease-back was killed. I was not prepared to force the islanders into an arrangement which was intolerable to them - and which I in their position would not have tolerated either."
So you pays your money etc etc
"As I rather expected, none of these diplomatic arguments in favour of lease-back had much appeal to the islanders themselves. They would have nothing to do with such proposals. They distrusted the Argentine dictatorship and were sceptical of its promises. but more than that, they wanted to remain British. They made this abundantly clear to Nick Ridley when he twice visited them to learn their views. The House of Commons too was noisily determined that the islanders' wishes should be respected. Lease-back was killed. I was not prepared to force the islanders into an arrangement which was intolerable to them - and which I in their position would not have tolerated either."
So you pays your money etc etc
cont . These three all work for the Iranian TV Press peddling their anti West and pro dictator
and marxist doctrines. In the case of the Blair family they all seem to be loved by Iran . He and his wife are often quoted and his sister in law has converted to Islam and is employed by Iranian Press TV . They all praise Castro and Benn described Mao as the greatest man on the planet.
and marxist doctrines. In the case of the Blair family they all seem to be loved by Iran . He and his wife are often quoted and his sister in law has converted to Islam and is employed by Iranian Press TV . They all praise Castro and Benn described Mao as the greatest man on the planet.
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