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Mood In Conservative Party Bleak
Mood in Conservative Party bleak after Jenrick's resignation
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So things are not looking too good then..?
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It sounds as though even Tora has abandonded them :-)
I was listening to David Campbell-Bannerman strongly suggested, vowed, even, that even if Sunak survived a confidence vote then letters of no confidence in the leader would follow.
The problem of course if that Sunak has staked his govenment's reputataion on an immigration poilicy that even its orginal foremost supports are now pointing out will not work. He is doomed to fail in this.
Rwanda was idiocy from the start: the original idea was that tens of thousands would be deported to this African country, which is even less well-equipped to deal with it than the UK is. Then as reality dawned the numbers were scaled back. But the mantra of "stop the boats" grew, the idea being that the policy would automatically act as a deterrent, when there can be no obvious indication that that would be the case. We now have a treaty which theoretically involved the exchange of each country's illegal migrants, which goes against a supreme court ruling, and will not stop legal challenges to individual deportations. And yet they plough on because a) the parrty and government are in hock to a populist slogan, and b) they have no back-up plan.
It's Brexit, ironically, which has wrecked the Conservartive party. It threatened to do it at those European elections, where the party got something like 9% of the vote, but what id happening now is different. Of course the party will revive, but it may take a fair while. It's easy to forget that most Labour voters probably backed us staying in the EU (just not the ones that mattered most). My hope is the a Labour government would return us to the customs union, something which has broad support among the electorate now, and which would solve the issue in N Ireland.
//It's Brexit, ironically, which has wrecked the Conservartive party. //
I disagree. It's their mishandling of it by getting rid of Boris in the beginning and their continued in-fighting that's wrecked the party. If they don't trust one another how can they expect the electorate to trust any of them? Fools all.
Miss - to any passing mod - can you make TTT refer to people by their proper names ? we dont by reason of deep respect refer to him as Trolling Tory Tw+T EVER now do we? Fair's fair
WHO is shazza for chrissakes
or throw the whole thread on the grounds of um-mimsiness
I agree in Boris Speak, that the current govt is under some difficult -
Boris lies again part deux on the Beeb as we speak
//It's Brexit, ironically, which has wrecked the Conservartive party. //
Well not entirely but yes it has played its part, although there are many factors to it. Bottom line is there are too many liberal TINO remainers that have not allowed a proper Brxit, something a fair few on here have said for years.
Personally, as I sated a while back, I will be glad of the collapse of this load of WEF saps. The Conservatives can then kick them into touch and bring the Party back to proper conservative values. I may even rejoin!
I've voted Tory at every GE since I've been old enough to vote, but for a variety of reasons I will not be doing so next time.
This doesn't mean I'll be voting Labour (I'm not nuts) I just won't be voting. Mind you, me not voting Tory is not likely to make a difference where I live, as a piece of cheese with a blue rossette will win. Since the creation of the constituency in 1974 it has always been Tory held and they currently have a majority of 15,000 out of the last turn-out of 50,000.
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