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Can The Met Be Cleaned Up?
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yeah of course it can
if someone has the wit and determination to do it ( so far not takers - OK so far only those who talked the talk and didnt do the walk).
Like: can they win the Ukraine war? - Jesus of course they can or else Putin will be knocking at our front doors
If we should fail? we fail! but screw your courage to the sticking pace and we'll not fail
Leddy MacB - scorts play Ac 1 sc 7
if someone has the wit and determination to do it ( so far not takers - OK so far only those who talked the talk and didnt do the walk).
Like: can they win the Ukraine war? - Jesus of course they can or else Putin will be knocking at our front doors
If we should fail? we fail! but screw your courage to the sticking pace and we'll not fail
Leddy MacB - scorts play Ac 1 sc 7
they have done it before, Chowks,
Sir Robert Mark did it in the 1960s.
Thiefrow and all that.
The Met should arrest more criminals than it employs.
Part of the difficulty then was that senior plods were chosen from the Army ( excuse me? for their organisational ability). The career police demanded access to the higher status, pay , pensions etc that the higher echelons commanded
and there was a gooby bit over a few years ( see above) because they werent very good at it
Sir Robert Mark did it in the 1960s.
Thiefrow and all that.
The Met should arrest more criminals than it employs.
Part of the difficulty then was that senior plods were chosen from the Army ( excuse me? for their organisational ability). The career police demanded access to the higher status, pay , pensions etc that the higher echelons commanded
and there was a gooby bit over a few years ( see above) because they werent very good at it
The difficulty involves deep-seated notions of 'loyalty' which make it extremely difficult for officers to report evidence of wrongdoing of any sort to superiors, or for those superiors to be seen to be taking action.
Until the culture of covering up and 'protecting our own' can be eradicated, cases like this will continue to occur.
Until the culture of covering up and 'protecting our own' can be eradicated, cases like this will continue to occur.
//The difficulty involves deep-seated notions of 'loyalty' which make it extremely difficult for officers to report evidence of wrongdoing of any sort to superiors,...//
I don't think that's the main difficulty. This odious piece of excrement was accused of ABH against a girlfriend less than a year after being appointed to the Met and whilst he was still on probation. There followed a second allegation less that two years later and yet more allegations of domestic violence between 2008 and 2019. None of these allegations, it seems, were secret. It simply seems that the Met chose to ignore them. In 2021 he was accused of rape and placed on restricted duties. The victim withdrew her complaint and he returned to normal work. That allegation is among those to which he has now pleaded guilty.
The problem seems to be not with a lack of information but with a lack of decisive action being taken on that information. Of all the occupations that should see staff closely vetted and monitored (and action taken as necessary), that of a police officer must rank at the top. Yet here we see an officer who has committed a string of serious offences, an allegation of just one against anybody else would probably see them sacked from working in a sweet shop.
I don't think that's the main difficulty. This odious piece of excrement was accused of ABH against a girlfriend less than a year after being appointed to the Met and whilst he was still on probation. There followed a second allegation less that two years later and yet more allegations of domestic violence between 2008 and 2019. None of these allegations, it seems, were secret. It simply seems that the Met chose to ignore them. In 2021 he was accused of rape and placed on restricted duties. The victim withdrew her complaint and he returned to normal work. That allegation is among those to which he has now pleaded guilty.
The problem seems to be not with a lack of information but with a lack of decisive action being taken on that information. Of all the occupations that should see staff closely vetted and monitored (and action taken as necessary), that of a police officer must rank at the top. Yet here we see an officer who has committed a string of serious offences, an allegation of just one against anybody else would probably see them sacked from working in a sweet shop.
Watching BBC Breakfast earlier and now BBC News I am appalled by the statement from Sir Mark Rowley. There are about 45,000 staff in the Met Police Force and apparently there are about 1,000 allegations of sexual and domestic abuse against 800 officers.
Rowley said "We have let London down, he has been a police officer for 20 years and through a combination of weak policies and weak decisions over those 20 years we missed opportunities when he joined and subsequently as behaviour came to the fore we should have removed him from policing."
Rowley continued "We are systematically reviewing every member of police staff and police officer who we have any historic flags against for being involved in any incident involving domestic abuse or sexual violence. I am sure some of those will turn out to be nothing of concern but many will turn out, sadly, to be of concern and I've been candid, I've got tens of thousands of fantastic men and women but I've got hundreds who shouldn't be here and I am going to sort it out."
I hope that such a review will also investigate the people who failed to act properly and sufficiently in response to the allegations.
Are the depraved acts of Carrick and Couzens just the tip of the iceberg?
Rowley said "We have let London down, he has been a police officer for 20 years and through a combination of weak policies and weak decisions over those 20 years we missed opportunities when he joined and subsequently as behaviour came to the fore we should have removed him from policing."
Rowley continued "We are systematically reviewing every member of police staff and police officer who we have any historic flags against for being involved in any incident involving domestic abuse or sexual violence. I am sure some of those will turn out to be nothing of concern but many will turn out, sadly, to be of concern and I've been candid, I've got tens of thousands of fantastic men and women but I've got hundreds who shouldn't be here and I am going to sort it out."
I hope that such a review will also investigate the people who failed to act properly and sufficiently in response to the allegations.
Are the depraved acts of Carrick and Couzens just the tip of the iceberg?
Yes, it can be cleaned up to be better than it is, but like any organisation it will never be 100%.
What I find odd is that it wasnt picked up by the regular NPPV3 that is needed. This is usually done by Warwickshire Police and should have picked up any accusations as well as any convictions. Having accusations wont stop your application - as you are not guilty, but it should have raised red flags to his superiors.
The things are in place, its ensuring they are done. Of course the Met has suffered from years under useless Dick.
What I find odd is that it wasnt picked up by the regular NPPV3 that is needed. This is usually done by Warwickshire Police and should have picked up any accusations as well as any convictions. Having accusations wont stop your application - as you are not guilty, but it should have raised red flags to his superiors.
The things are in place, its ensuring they are done. Of course the Met has suffered from years under useless Dick.
// I am appalled by the statement from Sir Mark Rowley.//
Why, he is being open. In addition you are failing to realise that Police Officers suffer more than most from false allegations which many will be. And that is part of the problem, the volume of allegations from villains and chancers after compo under which some really nasty individuals hide.
Why, he is being open. In addition you are failing to realise that Police Officers suffer more than most from false allegations which many will be. And that is part of the problem, the volume of allegations from villains and chancers after compo under which some really nasty individuals hide.
I did not fail to hear Rowley say that "some" of the allegations will cause no concern and "many" will cause concern. He has that much faith in the hundreds he needs to get rid of.
Just wonder what Rowley was doing when he climbed the ladder to the top job and whether or not he had any input in how to deal with this particular problem.
Just wonder what Rowley was doing when he climbed the ladder to the top job and whether or not he had any input in how to deal with this particular problem.
Sir Mark was a particularly crap head of terrorism for which he got knighted so SOMEONE decided he was up to the job or Better !
He may be good at rooting out corruption - let us wait and see. Cressida D was also up for it ( rooting out corruption) and lost an early battle - so could not get on top of it.
He may be good at rooting out corruption - let us wait and see. Cressida D was also up for it ( rooting out corruption) and lost an early battle - so could not get on top of it.
Sir Mark - woss'ee done den?
The answer is here
https:/
Laudatory - probs written by his wife -
was in Terrorism (FT article but under a pay wall).
I thought he didnt cut the moo-tar on that one but his pay-masters obviously thought he had
The answer is here
https:/
Laudatory - probs written by his wife -
was in Terrorism (FT article but under a pay wall).
I thought he didnt cut the moo-tar on that one but his pay-masters obviously thought he had
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