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davebro, HM already did that last week. The news of it only broke about midnight.
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10ClarionSt - Your defence of the prince does not bear scrutiny -
// He has never faced a jury or been convicted of anything. //
No-one is suggesting that he has. His demotion from royal duties was to protect the image of the monarchy from damage, not as a punishment for something of which he has not been convicted.
// He served this country in a war zone. //
Indeed he did, and no-one should diminish his personal bravery in that situation.
But bravery is not a deposit in the image bank which you can draw on later when things go wrong. His service does not excuse his behaviour, and while he was not convicted in court, his appalling approach to the entire situation demonstrates his utter inability to see the world through any eyes other than his own, and that makes him unsuitable as a working royal, which is why he is no longer in that position.
// How much of the media coverage about him does anyone believe? //
My view is based on his interview on Newsnight where he condemned himself out of his own mouth with his crass assessment of his advantageous relationship with a convicted sex offender, and his 'no sweating' nonsense.
// DLT should never have been convicted. He was found guilty on just one charge after being found not guilty of all other charges. And that one was a complete farce. //
Being found guilty of 'just one charge' makes DLT guilty, you don't get a swerve for the rest on a sliding scale - 'Mr Travis, you were only guilty on one charge, and someone who has not heard the evidence or been in court believes the media stories of your innocence, while scoffing at media stories about Prince Andrew's offences, so we'll let you off ...'
That's not how the law works.
// He has never faced a jury or been convicted of anything. //
No-one is suggesting that he has. His demotion from royal duties was to protect the image of the monarchy from damage, not as a punishment for something of which he has not been convicted.
// He served this country in a war zone. //
Indeed he did, and no-one should diminish his personal bravery in that situation.
But bravery is not a deposit in the image bank which you can draw on later when things go wrong. His service does not excuse his behaviour, and while he was not convicted in court, his appalling approach to the entire situation demonstrates his utter inability to see the world through any eyes other than his own, and that makes him unsuitable as a working royal, which is why he is no longer in that position.
// How much of the media coverage about him does anyone believe? //
My view is based on his interview on Newsnight where he condemned himself out of his own mouth with his crass assessment of his advantageous relationship with a convicted sex offender, and his 'no sweating' nonsense.
// DLT should never have been convicted. He was found guilty on just one charge after being found not guilty of all other charges. And that one was a complete farce. //
Being found guilty of 'just one charge' makes DLT guilty, you don't get a swerve for the rest on a sliding scale - 'Mr Travis, you were only guilty on one charge, and someone who has not heard the evidence or been in court believes the media stories of your innocence, while scoffing at media stories about Prince Andrew's offences, so we'll let you off ...'
That's not how the law works.
From the link in the OP:
//As first revealed in The Telegraph, the Duke will appear in public on Monday alongside senior members of the Royal family at the annual Order of the Garter ceremony, resplendent in full regalia as he takes part in the colourful procession at Windsor Castle.//
But the latest news is….//Prince Andrew banned from Order of the Garter public appearance after intervention by Charles and William//
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What he wants and what he gets could be two very different things.
//As first revealed in The Telegraph, the Duke will appear in public on Monday alongside senior members of the Royal family at the annual Order of the Garter ceremony, resplendent in full regalia as he takes part in the colourful procession at Windsor Castle.//
But the latest news is….//Prince Andrew banned from Order of the Garter public appearance after intervention by Charles and William//
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What he wants and what he gets could be two very different things.
While Andrew continues to do nothing to repair his shattered public image, and continues to rely on his self perception that his own inate fabulousness means that the world can't manage without him, his exile will continue.
His breadth and depth of arrogance and absence of self-awareness continues to leave him baffled as to why the world believes that it does not want his pompous face appearing in its royal family.
His breadth and depth of arrogance and absence of self-awareness continues to leave him baffled as to why the world believes that it does not want his pompous face appearing in its royal family.
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He hasn't been convicted of anything, he has committed no crime, but he has blatantly lied about his activities, in effect taking the public and everyone else for fools. His mistake was in thinking he could, without consequence or criticism, do exactly as he pleased and move in circles that no one with an iota of sense would touch with a bargepole. Sadly, his attitude does not appear to have changed. Not only does he want to regain his former status, he's now asking that his daughters, who have never done very much at all, become working royals, thereby raising their status. I'm truly convinced that he's genuinely utterly thick. He simply doesn't 'get it'.
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