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Mp Says He May Have Opened Porn By Mistake....
And then realised it, after watching for 6 minutes.
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Sqad - // Quite correct ,Andy, only in the surgeons changing room and once in the Consultants dining room.......but not shared with patients -;) //
Which rather proves my point.
if you and I have managed to get through our entire professional lives without feeling the irresistible compulsion to access pornography in the workplace where it could be seen by anyone else, which do you think it such a tall order for a Member Of Parliament to be required to do the same?
Which rather proves my point.
if you and I have managed to get through our entire professional lives without feeling the irresistible compulsion to access pornography in the workplace where it could be seen by anyone else, which do you think it such a tall order for a Member Of Parliament to be required to do the same?
maggie - //
At a lull in proceedings I looked online for a new tractor.
The soil in my constituency is predominantly clay and difficult to turn, so I needed something appropriate.
I therefore googled “rough ploughing” hoping to find a powerful tractor.
To my horror… //
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At a lull in proceedings I looked online for a new tractor.
The soil in my constituency is predominantly clay and difficult to turn, so I needed something appropriate.
I therefore googled “rough ploughing” hoping to find a powerful tractor.
To my horror… //
Were it within my remit to award you a Best Answer, you would have it now!!
Sqad - // O.K Andy.....the culprit has been brought to heal, embarrased, lost his repect and job and the sharks have had their fill.
A moment of stupidity to which he has paid a heavy price..........there for the grace of God.........eyc. //
As I mentioned at the beginning of our exchange, we are going to disagree on this.
You see it as a man making a monetary error and being torn apart by trial by media, and it could happen to any of us.
I see it as a man who should be old enough, intelligent enough, mature enough, and in control enough, to be elected as an MP, and demonstrating that he is clearly none of those things.
Yes there has been a trial by media, but his volte face from stating he would remain in post until 'investigated', followed by his resignation a day later, will not have been the result of media attention.
That will have been his constituency party confirming that they no longer wish him to serve for another moment, and he is to resign forthwith.
And in an apparently unusual, and rare, moment of awareness, and understanding of reality, he has complied.
He is not 'unlucky' and 'badly treated', he is an immature, inconsiderate, badly behaved idiot, he has no place in the seat of power, and he has quite rightly been removed from it.
A moment of stupidity to which he has paid a heavy price..........there for the grace of God.........eyc. //
As I mentioned at the beginning of our exchange, we are going to disagree on this.
You see it as a man making a monetary error and being torn apart by trial by media, and it could happen to any of us.
I see it as a man who should be old enough, intelligent enough, mature enough, and in control enough, to be elected as an MP, and demonstrating that he is clearly none of those things.
Yes there has been a trial by media, but his volte face from stating he would remain in post until 'investigated', followed by his resignation a day later, will not have been the result of media attention.
That will have been his constituency party confirming that they no longer wish him to serve for another moment, and he is to resign forthwith.
And in an apparently unusual, and rare, moment of awareness, and understanding of reality, he has complied.
He is not 'unlucky' and 'badly treated', he is an immature, inconsiderate, badly behaved idiot, he has no place in the seat of power, and he has quite rightly been removed from it.
pat - // If he were my husband he would be forgiven ... //
As he clearly has been by his wife, which is a matter for them as private individuals.
But as an MP, a public figure, and representative of his constituents, he has not been forgiven.
You may forgive your husband for what he did - would you forgive your MP?
As he clearly has been by his wife, which is a matter for them as private individuals.
But as an MP, a public figure, and representative of his constituents, he has not been forgiven.
You may forgive your husband for what he did - would you forgive your MP?
I agree with andy, the government seem to be seriously alarmed by the allegations of sleaze that have been piling up, and rightly so. It's not unique to Tories but it may be that as in Major's day government MPs get lazy and self-indulgent the longer their party has been in power. They well remember what happened to Major.
I'm not bothered by people looking at tractor, or other, porn; but to do it at work, where other people can see it, is stupid beyond belief and almost certainly illegal.
I'm not bothered by people looking at tractor, or other, porn; but to do it at work, where other people can see it, is stupid beyond belief and almost certainly illegal.
He's served his constituency as an MP for the past twelve years and before that was MEP for South West England for ten years. Had I been the one who spotted his misdemeanour I think I'd have given him a nudge to let him know other people could see what he was looking at - and left it at that. I think I'm right in saying we're all human and we all make mistakes - but perhaps some of us aren't - and don't.
naomi - // Had I been the one who spotted his misdemeanour I think I'd have given him a nudge to let him know other people could see what he was looking at - and left it at that. //
Contrary to what my previous posts may indicate, I may well have been inclined to do the same, since all MP's around him would have probably been 'on the same side', literally in most cases.
I think Im right in saying we're all human and we all make mistakes - but perhaps some of us aren't - and don't. //
Absolutely no argument there.
I am probably guilty of getting more than a little florid in my condemnation of this stupid man.
Taking a step back, I would like to state my position as amazement and disgust that someone in that position could be so crashingly unaware of the inappropriateness of what he was doing, and where he was doing it.
But it was stupidity, and he does acknowledge that, and he has paid a very high price for it.
But I believe that only reflects the high standards of behaviour we are entitled to expect from our MP's, and there is no excuse for falling from them.
I believe his removal is entirely proportionate and appropriate, and he will have plenty of the proverbial 'more time with his family' to reflect on it.
Contrary to what my previous posts may indicate, I may well have been inclined to do the same, since all MP's around him would have probably been 'on the same side', literally in most cases.
I think Im right in saying we're all human and we all make mistakes - but perhaps some of us aren't - and don't. //
Absolutely no argument there.
I am probably guilty of getting more than a little florid in my condemnation of this stupid man.
Taking a step back, I would like to state my position as amazement and disgust that someone in that position could be so crashingly unaware of the inappropriateness of what he was doing, and where he was doing it.
But it was stupidity, and he does acknowledge that, and he has paid a very high price for it.
But I believe that only reflects the high standards of behaviour we are entitled to expect from our MP's, and there is no excuse for falling from them.
I believe his removal is entirely proportionate and appropriate, and he will have plenty of the proverbial 'more time with his family' to reflect on it.
His wife forgave him because, as i pointed out earlier, she blames those performers he was caught watching. Had he been caught drink-driving, she would no doubt have blamed the motor industry or the brewery whose product he had imbibed:-/
Let's face it, for many people, myself included, what he did was just plain stupidity and nothing more. Had he immediately 'fessed' up to it, the matter would have probably gone away without him losing his job. But he didn't do that. Instead, he weirdly chose to do an interview on GB TV a day (or two) later.
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Let's face it, for many people, myself included, what he did was just plain stupidity and nothing more. Had he immediately 'fessed' up to it, the matter would have probably gone away without him losing his job. But he didn't do that. Instead, he weirdly chose to do an interview on GB TV a day (or two) later.
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hughespat - // If he were my husband he would be forgiven ... //
As he clearly has been by his wife, which is a matter for them as private individuals.
//But as an MP, a public figure, and representative of his constituents, he has not been forgiven.
You may forgive your husband for what he did - would you forgive your MP?//
Andy, yes. Of course. In fact as long as he was a good MP there would nothing to forgive. It wouldnt affect me. He made a stupid mistake in denying it. I think theresa lot of hypocrisy on this thread. And quite a few that enjoy the fact that he's lost his job, etc. Poor man and his poor family.
As he clearly has been by his wife, which is a matter for them as private individuals.
//But as an MP, a public figure, and representative of his constituents, he has not been forgiven.
You may forgive your husband for what he did - would you forgive your MP?//
Andy, yes. Of course. In fact as long as he was a good MP there would nothing to forgive. It wouldnt affect me. He made a stupid mistake in denying it. I think theresa lot of hypocrisy on this thread. And quite a few that enjoy the fact that he's lost his job, etc. Poor man and his poor family.
Ken - //
His wife forgave him because, as i pointed out earlier, she blames those performers he was caught watching. Had he been caught drink-driving, she would no doubt have blamed the motor industry or the brewery whose product he had imbibed:-/ //
That strikes me as a lady who is desperate to defend the man she loves in his hour of darkness when he is being castigated from all sides.
Unfortunately, because she is emotional, she has not taken the time to stop and think if her initial 'knee jerk' response is going to hold up to scrutiny, and clearly it does not.
She would have been better maintaining a dignified silence, if you say nothing, you can't say the wrong thing.
His wife forgave him because, as i pointed out earlier, she blames those performers he was caught watching. Had he been caught drink-driving, she would no doubt have blamed the motor industry or the brewery whose product he had imbibed:-/ //
That strikes me as a lady who is desperate to defend the man she loves in his hour of darkness when he is being castigated from all sides.
Unfortunately, because she is emotional, she has not taken the time to stop and think if her initial 'knee jerk' response is going to hold up to scrutiny, and clearly it does not.
She would have been better maintaining a dignified silence, if you say nothing, you can't say the wrong thing.
Pat - // You may forgive your husband for what he did - would you forgive your MP?//
Andy, yes. Of course. In fact as long as he was a good MP there would nothing to forgive. //
Interesting.
It appears from what you say that our lawmakers and representatives are given a slide if they display gargantuan lapses of judgement, as long as they are doing a good job otherwise.
Personally, that chimes with me, the age-old argument that Hitler loved dogs and Mussolini made the trains run on time.
Being good is not a credit account against which you can draw when you do something bad.
If that were true we could never ever prosecute a paedophile priest, any one of whom could have a queue around the block of people to testify all the wonderful things they have done.
Do we check back on the career of the police officer who was jailed for murdering George Floyd, and release him because he saved a child from a burning building?
That is simply not how society operates.
Virtually everyone who does one thing that causes them to lose their job, or their liberty, or even their live, is not an inherently bad person, they have just done one bad thing which, given the time again, they would not do again.
But society has to act on the bad thing someone has done, not simply 'excuse' it because it's a one-off against a blameless life.
// He made a stupid mistake in denying it. //
He did, and that simply amplifies his absence of judgement in acting as he did in the first place.
But his action was not a 'mistake', it was deliberate, and you don't have to take my word for it, Mr Parish has said so himself on television.
// I think theresa lot of hypocrisy on this thread. //
Can you offer any examples of that?
// And quite a few that enjoy the fact that he's lost his job, etc. //
I take no pleasure at all in the fact that he has lost his job - only that his constituents are given their basic right in a democracy, to be represented by an individual who is fit and able to do the job, which Mr Parish has demonstrated not to be.
// Poor man and his poor family. //
Half of that statement is correct - his family are innocent and have to bear the consequences of his behaviour.
He is not a 'poor man', he is, as I have said previously, an immature, unfeeling, arrogant, stupid fool who has added fuel to the flames of the argument that men in Parliament are badly behaved overly-entitled, crass immoral idiots.
Andy, yes. Of course. In fact as long as he was a good MP there would nothing to forgive. //
Interesting.
It appears from what you say that our lawmakers and representatives are given a slide if they display gargantuan lapses of judgement, as long as they are doing a good job otherwise.
Personally, that chimes with me, the age-old argument that Hitler loved dogs and Mussolini made the trains run on time.
Being good is not a credit account against which you can draw when you do something bad.
If that were true we could never ever prosecute a paedophile priest, any one of whom could have a queue around the block of people to testify all the wonderful things they have done.
Do we check back on the career of the police officer who was jailed for murdering George Floyd, and release him because he saved a child from a burning building?
That is simply not how society operates.
Virtually everyone who does one thing that causes them to lose their job, or their liberty, or even their live, is not an inherently bad person, they have just done one bad thing which, given the time again, they would not do again.
But society has to act on the bad thing someone has done, not simply 'excuse' it because it's a one-off against a blameless life.
// He made a stupid mistake in denying it. //
He did, and that simply amplifies his absence of judgement in acting as he did in the first place.
But his action was not a 'mistake', it was deliberate, and you don't have to take my word for it, Mr Parish has said so himself on television.
// I think theresa lot of hypocrisy on this thread. //
Can you offer any examples of that?
// And quite a few that enjoy the fact that he's lost his job, etc. //
I take no pleasure at all in the fact that he has lost his job - only that his constituents are given their basic right in a democracy, to be represented by an individual who is fit and able to do the job, which Mr Parish has demonstrated not to be.
// Poor man and his poor family. //
Half of that statement is correct - his family are innocent and have to bear the consequences of his behaviour.
He is not a 'poor man', he is, as I have said previously, an immature, unfeeling, arrogant, stupid fool who has added fuel to the flames of the argument that men in Parliament are badly behaved overly-entitled, crass immoral idiots.
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