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Let Them Eat...?
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MPs rejected the plea for free school meals to be given during holidays.
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Should be very good news for all the Answerbanks who think poor families spend too much on smoking, gambling, etc, so should get NO more handouts!
Let them eat cake! Or nothing.
Charles Dickens would not believe it.
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Should be very good news for all the Answerbanks who think poor families spend too much on smoking, gambling, etc, so should get NO more handouts!
Let them eat cake! Or nothing.
Charles Dickens would not believe it.
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archibaldy "why don't people that have a problem with free meals out of school time have a problem with free meals in school time also? Surely it's for the same reasons?"
Indeed, its was funded through the Summer holidays at a cost of £120m but continuing it through the Christmas holidays at £20m is apparently the end of the world and the rise of the peasant poor working classes.
The VS is worth £15 a week, even the basic school lunch to those without the VS costs is about £2.50
Around 4.2 million children live in poverty in the UK, about 30% of all children living in the UK currently, with 1.5m of those experiencing high levels of food insecurity. In 2003, the equivalent figure was about 600,000.
So in answer to sqad, who's fault is it? Ours, all of us, and anyone who dismisses poor hungry children based on the sole indecision of who they were born to and refuses to do anything about it are the worst kind of entitled British citizen I know.
Indeed, its was funded through the Summer holidays at a cost of £120m but continuing it through the Christmas holidays at £20m is apparently the end of the world and the rise of the peasant poor working classes.
The VS is worth £15 a week, even the basic school lunch to those without the VS costs is about £2.50
Around 4.2 million children live in poverty in the UK, about 30% of all children living in the UK currently, with 1.5m of those experiencing high levels of food insecurity. In 2003, the equivalent figure was about 600,000.
So in answer to sqad, who's fault is it? Ours, all of us, and anyone who dismisses poor hungry children based on the sole indecision of who they were born to and refuses to do anything about it are the worst kind of entitled British citizen I know.
Fender - what a load of rubbish! Only a small minority willingly live off benefits. Benefits wouldn't even cover my food bill....let alone any extras. If people on benefits can afford to pay their bills, run a car and take holidays then they are on the fiddle.
People on benefits shouldn't be grouped together. What if a spouse dies, or just leaves. You had children you could afford to bring up but if the main wage earner is suddenly not there....do you put them in the same bracket as the work shy.
It's not like we can hand our kids back if our finances change.
People on benefits shouldn't be grouped together. What if a spouse dies, or just leaves. You had children you could afford to bring up but if the main wage earner is suddenly not there....do you put them in the same bracket as the work shy.
It's not like we can hand our kids back if our finances change.
My great niece and her husband lost their jobs at the start of the covid crisis and ended up on UC and they have two young children.
Nothing to do with not being able to cook ,he's a chef but by the time they had paid their rent and other bills there wasn't much left over and the food vouchers were a godsend. These are not feckless lazy people just a young couple who have always paid their way and have ended up in a situation not of their own making.Luckily he's now found a job as a delivery driver so things now look better but it's still hard going.
Some of you really ought to walk a mile in other people's shoes.
This government can spend 12 billion on a track and trace system that even the PM admits isn't working properly and they funnel mega amounts of money to their cronies in Serco, Deloitte etc but can't afford a paltry 25 million for hungry children. Shame on them.
Nothing to do with not being able to cook ,he's a chef but by the time they had paid their rent and other bills there wasn't much left over and the food vouchers were a godsend. These are not feckless lazy people just a young couple who have always paid their way and have ended up in a situation not of their own making.Luckily he's now found a job as a delivery driver so things now look better but it's still hard going.
Some of you really ought to walk a mile in other people's shoes.
This government can spend 12 billion on a track and trace system that even the PM admits isn't working properly and they funnel mega amounts of money to their cronies in Serco, Deloitte etc but can't afford a paltry 25 million for hungry children. Shame on them.
Well put shaneystar.
Ummm "I don't actually know anyone who lives off benefits."
You do however (from your contribution) seem more in touch with the plight of the common folk than some on here though. It just takes a bit of decency and understanding.
Never mind Dickensian, the half-wits on here seem to want us to accept and progress through this era on the basis of an Elizabethan class order.
Ummm "I don't actually know anyone who lives off benefits."
You do however (from your contribution) seem more in touch with the plight of the common folk than some on here though. It just takes a bit of decency and understanding.
Never mind Dickensian, the half-wits on here seem to want us to accept and progress through this era on the basis of an Elizabethan class order.
Where I live we have a large number of third generation benefits families,. They certainly appear to have disposable income, getting their children statemented as special needs is the new trend with the extra benefits they can claim it successful. Btw I lost over half the household income when Dave died, my reduced NHS pension covers the bills leaving me about £60 a month to live on so I know what Ummm means about problems bought about by sudden changes of circumstances
//We all donated money for wealthy kids to eat out help out,…//
Yes and we all donate money (well, have it forcibly extracted from us, actually) to help “poor” children to eat. It’s called taxes. And a couple with two children receive £35 per week (£1,820 pa) apart from anything else they may receive, in order to help fund their children’s upbringing. Quite why they should expect schools to provide free meals for their children on top of that is anybody’s guess.
//Some people can't cope with the commitment required to take on a regular job.//
Indeed. Something they might have considered before embarking on parenthood (which is a “regular” and full time occupation).
//Apologies if it's obvious, but why don't people that have a problem with free meals out of school time have a problem with free meals in school time also? Surely it's for the same reasons?//
Quite why schools should be expected to provide meals (whether paid for or not) when the school is actually closed for educational purposes is even more puzzling. I have a problem with free school meals during term for the reason I outlined above. I have a problem with school meals (in total) during holidays because the idea of them is to provide lunch for children who perhaps cannot get home for a something to eat in the time allowed. I don’t know when it was that schools morphed into pseudo-creches, being expected to look after children all day, 52 weeks a year.
Yes and we all donate money (well, have it forcibly extracted from us, actually) to help “poor” children to eat. It’s called taxes. And a couple with two children receive £35 per week (£1,820 pa) apart from anything else they may receive, in order to help fund their children’s upbringing. Quite why they should expect schools to provide free meals for their children on top of that is anybody’s guess.
//Some people can't cope with the commitment required to take on a regular job.//
Indeed. Something they might have considered before embarking on parenthood (which is a “regular” and full time occupation).
//Apologies if it's obvious, but why don't people that have a problem with free meals out of school time have a problem with free meals in school time also? Surely it's for the same reasons?//
Quite why schools should be expected to provide meals (whether paid for or not) when the school is actually closed for educational purposes is even more puzzling. I have a problem with free school meals during term for the reason I outlined above. I have a problem with school meals (in total) during holidays because the idea of them is to provide lunch for children who perhaps cannot get home for a something to eat in the time allowed. I don’t know when it was that schools morphed into pseudo-creches, being expected to look after children all day, 52 weeks a year.
Because, Trevor, I was in that situation once, and I'll never forget it.
I earnt too much to be entitled to benefits but not enough to cover all our costs. I know how it feels to try your hardest but still have the constant worry of not having enough money.
I made a decent wage but bought a house with two incomes in mind.
I earnt too much to be entitled to benefits but not enough to cover all our costs. I know how it feels to try your hardest but still have the constant worry of not having enough money.
I made a decent wage but bought a house with two incomes in mind.
Well New Judge that was a very long post outlining that you have no absolutely no clue what the issue is. Do you even know what the NVS scheme means, or are you that out of touch?
Umm, I have never been in that situation, I have led a very privileged life by virtue of birth - and still do - but can still manage to empathize with those who have very little and help where I can.
Umm, I have never been in that situation, I have led a very privileged life by virtue of birth - and still do - but can still manage to empathize with those who have very little and help where I can.
Trevor - I've more or less had a very privileged life as well. That's my point, there might be a temporary blip we have no control over.
I was lucky, as I said before, I have a very loving family. My dad took over my car insurance because he was a named driver and buy us the basics when he went shopping.
Now life is so different. I pay for my sons food (student) and he really needs to lower his standards :-)
I was lucky, as I said before, I have a very loving family. My dad took over my car insurance because he was a named driver and buy us the basics when he went shopping.
Now life is so different. I pay for my sons food (student) and he really needs to lower his standards :-)
@15.48.Yes,fine words,Trevor.But living off the state should never be a career of choice for anyone.Up here in Scotland it is a way of life.And Wee Burney doesnt give a damn.Her clientele voters are the workshy,the waste of spacers,the non-taxpayers.God knows what would happen if England cuts off the money tap.
I am a lefty and am pro free school meals. However, I find it a bit odd that people keep talking about children going hungry during the holidays. Are their parents going to sit at the table eating their dinner/tea and say “Sorry Little un, we weren’t given money for your food, you’ll have to go hungry.” ?
The voucher scheme to cover the cost of extra food for children during lockdown can be abused, when Easter Eggs were allowed a man in front of me in Sainsbury's had a large number which he paid for using vouchers, the cashier asked him jokingly if he had a big family he said no, he was going to sell them on to his mates to make some extra cash.
Years back I knew girls who sold their milk and food vouchers for cigarettes. They knew all the tricks to tell 'the social' to get more money. They were nice girls , just had been taught by parents how to fiddle. I once tried to show one of them , who had four kids, how to bake potatoes and open a tin of beans to put on top. 'Me kids won't eat that crap' was the reply as she shoved bought sausage rolls and microwave chips at them.
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