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Bobbisox1 | 07:34 Thu 16th Jul 2020 | News
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https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/oxford-coronavirus-vaccine-could-give-22363391

It would be marvellous if this could be put out before October and the ‘flu season, we can but hope that there’s going to be a breakthrough against this terrible illness
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Latest news. Trials have produced constant results.
09:02 Thu 16th Jul 2020
Too quick. How have they had time to properly assess for side effects. Vaccines can take years to get into the population - with good reason.
ymb. Do you know how long they have been testing?
It's fair to assume that there was little or no testing of a vaccine for COVID19 until the world came to a shuddering halt a few months back so, not very long.
A faint light at the end of the tunnel - let's hope it works because Bozo's certainly not doing anything to help the NHS prepare for the otherwise awful Winter ahead of us all.
Apart from those working on vaccines, every scientist I have seen quoted/interviewed has described hoping for one to be ready for distribution before early next year is optimism. Then there are weeks and months ahead for production, distribution and administering to be done. They say that for the vast majority of the Western World's public it will at best be next spring before there is widespread access to a Corona/Covid vaccine.
//Maybe NJ but if we don’t have hope, what’s left?//

What’s left is the opportunity for you to weigh up your own personal likelihood of contracting the virus (which, in almost all of the UK is minimal at worst) and the likely impact it will have on you. Then you can decide whether (a) you want to remain locked up and/or be severely restricted in what you do and where you go (and the impact that will have on you) or (b) you want to return to some semblance of normal life whilst taking sensible, practical and proportionate measures to minimise that tiny risk. I know what I’d do (and I’ve already done it).

Quite honestly that’s your only realistic choice: stay locked up or get out and about. To rely on the development, testing and distribution of an effective vaccine should not be a factor in that decision because it’s not going to happen any time soon and may not happen at all. I’ve given up trying to explain on here how minimal the risk of contracting the virus really is so you pays your money and takes your choice.

//Latest news. Trials have produced constant results.//

Constant in what respect, danny?
NJ /constant in what respect//
The article did not specify that, but I would imagine that he means that they are getting the same positive results from the tests.
// I’ve given up trying to explain on here...//

You haven't though,have you?

NJ, if we live our daily lives as best we can but with no hope for the future then that's a pretty bleak outlook.
In the back of my mind is - will there be serious side effect long term ?
"ymb. Do you know how long they have been testing?"

No, but I do know it is far far shorter than normal becasue the timespan from the start of the virus to now is well short of the norm.

So some shortcuts have been taken, be it trial or red tape, that could lead to problems.

To be honest, if you want to be first on the line to try it dont let me stop you. But then dont force me to have it - yet.
My concern too Baz.
>// And of course there will be many who refuse the vaccine ( a survey showed 1 in 6)//
still OK for herd immunity (60%) - is required in this disease.
Yes, that's right, but as there is a similar number who have said they are not definite refusers but will probably decide not to take it, then we may be down to say 66%. And of course there will be certain communities who for various reasons will have an uptake of below 50% so flare ups could occur as in Leicester, Blackburn, Dewsbury
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There’s was talk of making it compulsory FF? ( if it was successful)
Bobbi //There’s was talk of making it compulsory//
I can't see that happening Bobbi,It would constitute an offence of assault if it was not sanctioned by the patient.
"There’s was talk of making it compulsory FF? ( if it was successful)"

Now that would be a step too far, we are not North Korea or China. It might be Bill Gates' dream but I think there could be real problems with that one.

I seem to recall another regime that forced people into live medical trials, ran by Herr Josef Mengele.
Bobbi, he will have a problem trying to get that into law.
I'm sick of this government making, or trying to make, everything compulsory - we're slowly losing our free will..

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