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rich47 | 08:14 Wed 06th May 2020 | News
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The poor deranged US president's latest strategy is to try to convince the American people that the covid pandemic is behind them, is over, magically gone away and that he has achieved a great victory. His sole motivation is of course to get re-elected. Unfortunately the only thing Biden has going for him is that he is not Trump.

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My question from yesterday along similar lines:
https://www.theanswerbank.co.uk/News/Question1705900.html
If the death rate keeps going up that could well work against him, but the message will be that all the deaths are China's fault, which will go down well with his supporters no matter what.

There's nothing to do but see how it develops.
I know I said I would not wish CV-19 on anyone but will make an exception in Trumps case. He is dangerous and possibly mentally unbalanced.
China's fault?????? What a terrible thing to say.
Everyone knows it's all his fault.
//China's fault?????? What a terrible thing to say.
Everyone knows it's all his fault. //

The virus might well be China's fault, but that doesn't mean actions taken or not taken subsequently in various countries will not affect the death toll.
I can see what you mean.
Like hiding the fact it was a communicable disease from the rest of the world for 2 months.
Stopping people from Wuhan travelling to other parts of China but letting them fly all around the world, that sort of thing?
As I've been saying for the last 2 months, when the death rates in the US approach the death rates in Britain and the rest of Europe you anti-Trumpers can start celebrating. Until then, you really need to keep quiet until you've educated yourselves.
//Until then, you really need to keep quiet until you've educated yourselves.//

Bullocks. He's fair game just like anybody else is.

He has handled the pandemic bloody terribly. Misinformation, denial, lack of action, more interest in the economy than the health of his people and not to mention his disinfectant faux pas.

I know you like him Spicy, but he's pretty much indefensible in this instance.
SC.//when the death rates in the US approach the death rates in Britain and the rest of Europe you //
They are already above us and Europe with over 72,000.
Lol. You're such a Trump fanboy Spicey that you interpret any mention of the great man as an attack on him, without reading what's actually been said.
Smearing the death rate out across the entire US is misleading when the variation is huge. New York State is, by head, the worst-hit region anywhere, and two other states also appear currently to be running ahead of European countries.

Trump's connection to those particular chilling stats is incidental at best, to be sure. Where the criticism comes from, though, is in the contradictory advice, the hubris of February-March, the undermining of his own health experts, the claims and then rapid retractions of unconstitutional powers, attacks on governors, the strange decision to briefly encourage anti-lockdown protests, and so on.

Also there's the question of Trump's travel ban. In itself I don't think it was an unreasonable decision, except that it was probably already too late for such measures to have a meaningful impact. What's frustrating is Trump's continued insistence to credit that decision for saving lives when, at most, it merely delayed the outbreak, buying time that was then not really put to good use. That's the criticism. Why was Trump boasting about his actions early on when he certainly should have realised that there was worse to come? What was this nonsense about there are only 15 cases and it's going to go "down to zero very soon", or "the Coronavirus is very m uch under control", ir his classic 9th March proclamation:

// So last year 37,000 Americans died from the common Flu. It averages between 27,000 and 70,000 per year. Nothing is shut down, life & the economy go on. At this moment there are 546 confirmed cases of CoronaVirus, with 22 deaths. Think about that! //

Well, Covid-19 has now exceeded 70,000 in the US in barely a month.

I could go on. Trump has been clearly and sad out of his depth, which is a problem.
spicerack // when the death rates in the US approach the death rates in Britain and the rest of Europe you anti-Trumpers can start celebrating. Until then, you really need to keep quiet until you've educated yourselves. //

maybe you need to educate yourself. the USA have over twice the amount of deaths than the UK and rising much quicker.
//They are already above us and Europe with over 72,000.//

I assumed Spicy meant per populace, which sees them lagging behind most of western Europe.

https://www.realclearpolitics.com/coronavirus/
Oh, yes, and, finally, on the China front:

https://twitter.com/realdonaldtrump/status/1220818115354923009

https://twitter.com/realdonaldtrump/status/1225728755248828416

https://twitter.com/realdonaldtrump/status/1243407157321560071

Compared with some of the other stuff he's said this is inconsistent messaging, at the very least.
I thought 'Oh, here's jim, he'll explain that you have to take a country's population into account when comparing death rates'.
You know, to save any more of you embarrassing yourselves on the internet.
Did he? Did he *** as like. Lol.
Yes, but I did, so stop point scoring and explain how Trump's management of the pandemic has been anything better than incompetent.
I was gonna start a "Trump makes an arriss of himself again"
But I will tack it on here
Trump says he will disband the medical team - last night
and then clarifies by saying he wont disband it

he admits he didnt realise how popular it was ....

which surprises me - that he listen to other people and doesnt do exactly what he wants and hang the consequences

People here may speculate - it is all about being re elected apparently ....
// and explain how Trump's management of the pandemic has been anything better than incompetent.//

sorry Mozz
( robot sound: PP shifts into AB speak) sozza mozza
the question mentions 'management' and that implies there has been some
I disagree - I think he has said all along that it really isnt a Fed problem - the states themselves have to step up .......

no management - nothing to explain
// explain how Trump's management of the pandemic has been anything better than incompetent. //

Spicey doesn't do explanations, just accuses everyone that disagrees with him of being stupid. It's easier.
//no management - nothing to explain//

Which beggars the question, what is he doing then?
trump is doing quite a lot of - - nothing
kicking off with - not being sure ( well being sure he couldnt ) that he cd order a lock down

and then agonising about whether it was an order or a presidential thought

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