Why All The Fuss About Corona?

[ToraToraTora]

https://news.sky.com/story/coronavirus-millions-of-britons-will-need-to-contract-covid-19-for-herd-immunity-11956793
It's apparently going to return again and again and in order to defend we have to catch it anyway.

[teacake44]

@12.19 Its your attitude that is more worrying than the virus, and that's why it will spread. And it appears your less worried because you've got your daughter to do the outside work for you.

[teacake44]

I'm 70 this year and have reasonable health, no big underlying problems, but there's lots of folk that have, so if I'm lucky enough to get a mild form I shall stop at home for the sake of others.

[Bobbisox1]

I’m awaiting ( with baited breath) if we fly or not next Tuesday as there’s now two confirmed cases on Lanzarote

[teacake44]

Hi ya bobs, what would you prefer, money back or go?

[gness]

This virus is an unknown. We have yet to discover what, if any, effect it will have on a pregnant woman or the unborn baby.....even a mild dose.

[Bobbisox1]

I’ll take instruction, if the airline is still going then I will go , my sister in law actually got to the airport for a chartered flight to Barbados to join a ship for a Caribbean cruise, to find they’d cancelled it, that was this morning , apparently the islands aren’t letting tourists disembark

[teacake44]

@12.35 Yep, we don't and the folk who are treating it as scare mongering are more dangerous to a good out come, its nothing to do with scare mongering, just honest and open opinions on whats happening at the moment.

[teacake44]

@12.40 if you go will you bring me some bog roll back, if the right price. :0)

[Bobbisox1]

Will a bunch of dock leaves do? :0/

[anneasquith]

I will be the first person to say to all of you complaining about the big fuss, you were right .

[teacake44]

Emm, Emm ok whatever you can get.

[Bobbisox1]

With Aloe Vera on them ?

[woofgang]

"woof, have you not been listening to the news? more so in Italy, they do not have enough equipment,,/ staff to deal with it, they have already said it will come to the point where they will have to choose who gets treatment and who don't, depending on age and other factors, and the same will happen here to if they get high numbers."

teacake that is why the curve flattening exercise is so important

[Peter Pedant]

why all this fuss about corona
considering we are all gonna DDDIIIIIIIIIEEEEEEE anyway ?

yeah goo d point and er oo this must be AB

[georgesgirl]

gness my daughter is heavily pregnant and she is like me, not worried about this virus at all and laughs at all the scaremongering, as I do. I am not selfish, just practical and I have yet to meet anyone else who worries as much as people do on here! teacake it has everything to do with scaremongering and you are one of the ones who seem to be panicking the most. Oh and gness not everybody who is elderly or has underlying health problems will die anyway, and by the way how do you know I don't have any underlying health problems??

[jourdain2]

georgesgirl - I'm hoping to avoid it until there is a vaccine. I'm only 70 and OH and I both survived Bird flu in 2010 - but that was 10 years ago; I have asthma and last year a bout of bronchitis laid me low for almost 3 months; Mr j2 is 86 (87 in April) and has heart problems including a triple heart bypass in 2000. I love him very much and I do not think that I am panicking when I say that I wish to avoid this virus.
Very callous of you i.m.o.. My daughter desperately needs me to continue driving 57 miles each way to pick-up and care for her children once a week. Taking care seems to me to be only sensible. I have not stockpiled etc., we'll live - as long as we don't catch this thing. (No family nearby to help out, by the way.)

[Peter Pedant]

good example of a straightforward technical crgument is incomprehensible to the proles

two things - you vaccinate a community (herd) and at a high enough vaccination ( immune ratio) the bug cant find another host to pass to. hence those unvaccinated are protected
MMR - the vacc protects those susceptible - and the non vacc DIIIIIIEEE! as has happened in Samoa whilst AB know-alls squealed that all they wished to do was get people to think about MMR

the second category is when you vacc X so as to protect Y who is too long and too susceptible - DPT is this one - get the herd immunity up so that the under ones dont get whooping cough and (DDIIIIIEEEE!)

and yes - - - there is more ! (Jimmy Cricket)

everyone gets it and so those that have slipped thro the net wont get (German Measles and pregnant women)

BUT - - there is also the idea that one infection doesnt give you immunity ( flu and common cold)

and altho there are reports of reinfection that is corona virus twice in some lucky people - this article does NOT imply you can get it again and again

this article implies with not enough immune numbers - there can be second or third waves affecting new and different people.
that is there will be waves again and again
but NOT that the same people will get it again and again

so what is the fuss about
that there may be second or third waves affecting more people before a vaccine is available

o god this has to be AB

[bluesplayer8998]

i dont think people take the threat serious enough i bet tomorrows count for the infected in the uk goes above the 1000 count from todays count of 797

[ladybirder]

Georgesgirl do you love dogs?

[ichkeria]

The theoretical “herd immunity” figure for the UK is 60% of the population. That’s an awful lot of people and and if the peak is to be “flattened” then means a long haul indeed.
However, it’s very likely they they figure reduces if the correct precautions are taken. However, as PP indicates (I think) if immunity does not occur from contracting the disease well, then ...

There is the risk too that people get panicked by statistics: like the comment @23.30.
If all it does it gets us hand washing more then that’s good. But I hope the government itself won’t be panicked into thinking people don’t think it is doing enough and abandoning its staged response.