Britains Worst Prison

[nailit]

https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/5377701/inside-britains-worst-prison-rife-with-zombie-drug-spice-and-plagued-by-rats-and-cockroaches/

I spent 6 weeks in this prison 20 years ago, at the end of an 8 month sentence. It felt like 6 years at the time. It was just as bad (perhaps even worse) then.
Just curious as to how some people...here and elsewhere... continually see prison as a holiday camp? Not argueing about the rights and wrongs of prisoners or their conditions, just curious as to how people can still equate going to jail with a holiday in Butlins?

[Baldric]

Skeggy is ok, been there a few times since, Butlins was the problem

[albaqwerty]

I have no experience of being inside a prison. I only have thoughts.
Those addicted to drugs need help or a continued supply (I know that's frowned on, but unless the addict wants to come off, then it's very difficult)
Being in jail with a cockroach is dreadful - what century are we supposed to be living in?

[sapelesam]

I visited a good friend in Durham over 20 years ago, it scared the living bejusus out of me. He told me they insulated the cell walls with newspapers stuck on with porridge, looks like things haven't improved much.

[Khandro]

They've got big fleas in Strangeways
They're big in Peterhead
But the Dartmoor fleas'll take a man
And kick him out of bed

chorus;
'Hard case, hard case
Hard cases galore
But the hardest cases in a word
Are the screws around the 'Moor'

Ewen Macoll Extract

[naomi24]

I agree with Ludwig at 22:44. I actually don't care very much that it's bloody awful in prison either. Unlike some, I refuse to make the right noises. You commit a crime, you take the consequences.

[Islay]

Well going to prison is supposed to be a punishment!
I don't think I have seen anyone say its equal to going to Butlins, but as they say if you can't stand the heat stay out of the kitchen!!!

[emmie]

i think that its dehumanising to be in such filthy conditions and i never once thought it was like Butlins, but what can one do, lots of prisons need upgrading and where is the money going to come from.

[murraymints]

Been into several prisons to do pre release talks/ courses...some are better than others...it is punishment..loss of liberty and freedom of choice is bad enough . without a decent standard of sanitation and accommodation, resulting life for the prison officers would not be easy..they have enough unrest to deal with.. by and large the officers I had contact with were decent enough towards the inmates... old Peterhead Nick was scariest

[-Talbot-]

Being in jail with a cockroach is dreadful - what century are we supposed to be living in?



Luck of the draw when it comes to your cellmate, Alba.

[Islay]

My grandmother and mother lived not far from Peterhead Prison - they used to toll a bell when anyone escaped.
As for it being inhuman to live in such conditions - is it not inhuman to do the crime in the first place?

[emmie]

i wouldn't like to visit let alone be in one.
There are those who shouldn't be in prison, if you have drug problem what's the point and there are those who should be in prison but arn't

[Islay]

I'm not sure those that have been burgled or beaten by those trying to get money for drugs would agree with you emmie!

[Sqad]

I am not sure that you get a custodial sentence for nicking a bag of sweets and prisons do vary as to whether they are Mental Hospitals or prisons. My experience is limited to three, Wakefield Jail, Walton Prison and the Mental hospital just outside Maghull, Merseyside.

This is a complex problem, being what do we see the function of our prisons and how does one solve it to safeguard society?
If they are meant to be punishment, then fine, don't make it too comfy for the, but if it is rehabilitation, then treat the inmates as humans........in my opinion, both methods have failed as the re-offending rates remain the same or have risen.
Modern Prisons? a good idea.....but not in my backyard is the cry....so there is the first problem.
Remember folks that these people prey on the weak and are unable to follow the established laws to make a community safe.
Whatever one does, they are likely to re-offend......so..bang them up to protect society......it is unlikely to work, but for a period of time, one villain is taken out.

Butlins? 1953........fabulous....Skegness.

[murraymints]

Went to Skeggy Butlins '63 ...only ten years kept us apart sqad ! I loved it too..

[Sqad]

^^^ LOL. wasn't it called Ingoldsmill or something similar?

[murraymints]

Ingolds...but known and loved as Skeggy !

[Sqad]

My grandma and grandad would take me to Skeggy for a week and we would walk the whole length of Lumley Road for a B&B with vacancies.
It was common to see in the windows " No Blacks or Irish".........;-)

[mikey4444]

Sqad....My Dad used told me about those signs, when he first came to London from NI, just after the War. He said that they made him and his Mother feel so angry, and desolate and quite rightly so.

Hateful times, that are thankfully over now.

[murraymints]

:-0 ..not good, sad sign of the times...excuse the asides nailit x

[ummmm]

My daughter lived in Oz for a few years and said they still dislike the Irish there.