So Much For Free Speech.......

[ToraToraTora]

http://www.bbc.com/news/uk-england-derbyshire-41683999

[pastafreak]

Aside from the cultural/racial aspects of this case, and the experiences of 10clarions daughter...the behaviour described is all too common across the board. Some of the rudest are nice white and English. We have an elderly lady client who is demanding, with no manners whatsoever. She'll bang her money on the counter...demanding immediate attention. Rarely says "thankyou". There are 16 year olds who are more polite than she is.

[sp1814]

-Talbot-

I’ve just checked the link you posted.

No, it wasn’t that one. She looks a little bit like the other woman, but it’s defini not her.

[Bazile]

//Police said in a statement: "A man has been arrested following allegations that a video containing racist language was shared on social media.//

It never ceases to amaze me the stupidity of some people , when it comes to social media

[Gromit]

There have been many instances of idiots making themselves unemployed on Social Media.
No sympathy. If you are going to break the law, don’t be so stupid as to identify yourself and film the crime.

[Mamyalynne]

He obviously didn't listen to the careers adviser who may have mentioned that retail is a wonderful occupation if it wasn't for the customers.

This will sit well on his CV won't it?

[Just-Jude]

The silly boy is just a lightweight ... here's a proper rant.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4997262/Black-man-launches-astonishing-racist-rant-tube.html

Police have confirmed they are not looking for anyone in connection with this incident.

[jackthehat]

That was posted earlier, Jude.

[Just-Jude]

jackthehat. I'm well aware of that, but without the police update.

[ToraToraTora]

10cs; "In years to come, the whole of Europe will just be an extension of Asia, Africa and the middle east because sycophantic idiots think all immigrants are wonderful and will enhance and diversify everywhere.

Situations that this man describes, will become the norm and people are allowing it to happen and speaking out against him without having experienced anything like he has.

People should wake up and smell what they're shoveling " - I'd give you BA for this but you already have it, double BA!

[davegosling]

There seems to be a fundamental misunderstanding about the term "free speech", that somehow anyone is allowed by law to say anything they like no matter how inflammatory so long as they believe it to be the truth. "I can say whatever I like, mate - we have free speech in this country, innit!" Er, no you can't, mate, because we don't!

UK citizens have what is termed a "negative right" to freedom of expression. However, this is not a blanket authorisation by any means, as there are many exceptions set down in law. Plus, the UK's laws on defamation, slander and libel are some of the toughest in the world.

Good explanation here: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Freedom_of_speech_by_country#United_Kingdom

[Mamyalynne]

Of course he's allowed free speech, however - include foul language, derogatory references to race and bring your employer into the spotlight then expect repercussions.

[Islay]

Your right Clarion we don't get the need to rant racist nasty name calling stuff on social media.
I think it says more about you that you sympathise with him!

[jno]

she'll certainly do without me, Clarion, I've had quite enough of shop assistants who think they're more important than the customers. If you'll just give me the name of the shop where she works...

[hereIam]

I agree with 10C, I have witnessed rudeness from Asians in my local supermarket regularly, they rarely say please or thank you and just take their change from the checkout girl and walk away. One checkout girl once said 'you're welcome' after yet another rude Asian woman who then turned round and glared at her and muttered something in her own language. And yes, I know other people can be rude, but not to the extent I see with Asians.

[albaqwerty]

a famous retailer?
aren't they all?

You daughter sounds as if she's really up-herself and a racist too.

[Mamyalynne]

There are without some customers who are difficult to deal with, I have never unlike some been able to categorise them all into one race or group.

It's been my experience they come from every walk of life and barring outright abuse (which you report in the normal way) you grin and bear it.

[Mamyalynne]

If your daughter's store manager is allowing actual abuse to continue unabated then as a seasoned and respected employee she'd be best advised going higher up to seek action.

[vetuste_ennemi]

//That goes beyond free speach in so many ways!//
(No, it doesn't.)

//Free speech does not mean that you can make offensive remarks which are deemed to be racist.//
(Yes, it does.)

And that's just the first two posts by just two of the people who do not understand what free speech means.

But, the issue of free speech apart, there's the ugly chorus approving his arrest and calling for him to be sacked.

If this chap's rant is breaking the law then maybe we should criminalise small-mindedness and malice as well. Then PC Plod could pop round here and make sure some of the choristers get their (as one nasty put it) "just deserts".