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I have no idea what my sons do in the bathroom (22 and 23 years old respectively) and I'd like to keep it that way thank you. :-)

However, they are both butchers and wash their hands more often than they did when they were in primary school, the hand washing is second nature to them now then they put their gloves back on and carry on dicing and slicing
Reading the article it strikes me that the problem may well have been a lack of decent hot water for washing in the toilet area - otherwise there would be no need to have that mucky bottle in the kitchen where he filled it.

All toilet business including ablutions should be kept separate from the kitchen.
albaqwerty....I am sure that those big grown up sons of yours are still benefitting from all that teaching you gave them years ago !

In the lid-60's, my parents had the outside toilet changed to a stand-up, double sized urinal, as she thought it would save on an awful lot of cleaning up, boys ability to "aim" never being of any high level of accuracy !

When my friends came over to play, they thought it was a great idea !

We still had to climb 2 flights of stairs for a Number Two of course.
surely lack of hot water and proper washing facilities should fall on the owners/management of the establishment?

Mikey, please stop being so formal, it's alba or albs :-D
You ought to see Chinese public conveniences.

One sex and very communist, equal to all......

Imagine a building about the size of ours, no bogs but just a half drain running down the building from the far end to the door. Your challenge or something to ponder...do you go the top end where there are no lumps floating under you but there is an appalling stench - or do you nip just inside so you can get out quick, less stench but plenty of lumps....?

And there's usually no basin facilities, sometimes one tap outside.
The exceptional comment referred to not cleaning up properly afterwards (then going out to prepare food, as well). I'm sure washing is more civilised than wiping with wood pulp and calling it clean. It's one reason those new design toilets from Japan (I think) seem promising. Finish going and then you get a jet spray wash and blow dry before rising. Now they just have to get the cost below both the arm and the leg.
Certain nasty diseases are suddenly arriving back in this country apparently.
Those very diseases the UK thought they had eradicated 50-60 years ago.
Any guesses for TB,Polio etc? Perhaps the British citizenship test should include standards of hygiene.
Retro...much of that was to do with parents refusing to give their children their vaccinations due to fear of autism.
Alba

//surely lack of hot water and proper washing facilities should fall on the owners/management of the establishment? //

Yes, one would think so, just trying to work out why it needed to be filled up from the kitchen taps.
Yes...an unfounded fear.
Maybe the sink in the toilet is too small to get the container under.
It's a thought Ummmm.
ummm
//Retro...much of that was to do with parents refusing to give their children their vaccinations due to fear of autism.//

Yes in Asia and it is brought with them here.How many of the recent million 'refugees' were actually checked out for communicable disease when they flooded Europe recently?
They don’t refuse vaccinations because of a fear of autism – they refuse them for superstitious reasons and because some vaccines contain pork derivatives. Diseases that were once eradicated, or all-but eradicated, in this country are rearing their ugly heads again – one of them TB – and that is not due to a refusal to accept vaccinations, but simply because people are arriving here with the infection.
yes umm you are right ( cant qujite drag the IRA into this one )
the rise in communicable diseases esp after MMR is down to the gormless ness of one Andrew Wakefield who has been struck off for his misdeeds I am glad to say

and yes the indian / asian population have a higher prevalence of TB and BCG does not work as well

sorry off thread
Here, Retro. British parents refusing the vaccines after reading, that now rubbished, report where they were linked to Autism.
greed and misdeeds I mean
ummmm, that isn't the general reason. I've told you the reasons. Many even think vaccines are a western plot to render their children sterile!
Not long back in some M.E./African country Health aid workers were trying to introduce a vaccination programme and abandoned it because so many were regarded as foreign spies and killed by the savages they were trying to help.Ignorance breeds germs and disease and they care little for hygiene as this filthy Asian food preparer demonstrates.How many British people clean their backside with their hands?
od
An acquaintance of mine has worked in Doha, and was always talking about how the men wiped their backsides with their hands. Do the women do the same?

And I believe that retrocop and naomi are correct about the return of eradicated diseases. How many migrants from any country are checked before entering the UK?

During the recent Ebola outbreak, there was a report about how the people of Sierra Leone had to be taught to wash their hands. Not as in how to wash them properly, but how to wash them because it’s not something they normally do.
And when the migrant crisis began in earnest last year, I saw a report about a man who was employed to help Syrians when they arrived in the UK. One of his duties was teaching them how to use the toilet! What do they do at home? *** out of the window?!

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