Oh Dear

[sir.prize]

here we go again

http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/news/4953956/Anjem-Choudary-Lee-Rigby-will-burn-in-hellfire.html

[naomi24]

jno, No idea. Have you? Or like me, are you just guessing?

[jno]

I have. "Never."

And jake is never going to have to wear a beard.

Politics is unpredictable but maths work.

[naomi24]

Well, no doubt jno's pronouncement will allay unfounded fears for Jake at least, but what about the grandchildren you mentioned? Do the maths work for them - and their grandchilden?

[ludwig]

That's a relief then. As long as jake won't be forced to wear a beard we can all relax.

[ludwig]

I bet he's got one anyway.

[douglas9401]

Yup, one of those strokey ones, lends an air of mystery as in "what are you talking about?".

[TTG]

Can't they reduce Choudarys "free everything"? Say for each rant, his "free everything" gets reduced by 10% each time. He could also be moved to a house with one less bedroom for every 5 rants.

I say this with very annoyed sarcasm.

[marval]

I can't understand why newspapers give him any reporting space. If nothing was said about him, it wouldn't stop him, but it would stop him enjoying the fact he thinks he is worth it.

[2sp_]

I was just thinking the very same thing, marval.

The media need to play a part in this, cut off the oxygen from this hate.

[tonyav]

About time this piece of scum errrrrrrrrrm disappeared !.

[youngmafbog]

Well dont wait for the authorities to do anything; its his 'ooman rights.

Just have to wait for a vigilante I guess. One day he will incite something that kills a relation of an equal nutter that will get him.

[ludwig]

// I can't understand why newspapers give him any reporting space //

Because he's the nearest thing to a spokesman that Islamist lunatics have got, so he's the go to guy whenever there's an incident of islamist lunacy.
Also, you can always count on him to say something outrageous and stupid, and the media love people like that.

[emmie]

jno like it or not Christianity is on it's way out in the UK. as someone pointed out there are over 2 Million Muslims in Britain, the journalist added, time is on their side. Many British people may have put Christian on the census form, but that doesn't mean they are practising, whereas most Muslims do.

[naomi24]

I actually think there are more people who consider themselves to be Christian in this country than we realise. As you say, Em, they just don't go to church, and hence are not counted. We shouldn't discount the much higher birthrate in the Muslim population, hence the swiftly swelling numbers, but if push came to shove - which I hope it never does - I think we would see an enormous rise in the number of people claiming to be Christian.

[Zeuhl]

Two million in 60 million is still a long way from dominance.

There may be fewer christians in Britain, but that probably means there are increased numbers of Atheists and Rationalists (me included)

That could be a very good thing and more significant than the relative numbers of christians and muslims

Atheists and Rationalists are even less likely to tolerate any dictats from Muslims and their silly book of rules and superstitions

The christian churches are too keen to invite them into 'multi faith' events

Perhaps people who share an obsession with fairy stories and silly rules gain comfort from unity

Two million muslims versus an alliance of 60 million cynical Rationalists/a few christians/other odds and sods seems reasonable odds to me

[emmie]

claiming and being are two different things. I have said before i believe that Christianity will eventually die out, to be replaced by Islam, for good and for ill.

[emmie]

it does mean many people have moved away from Christianity and tacked onto other religions, or become atheist or agnostic, even joined the Jedi Knights, but that doesn't mean to say an organised religion with many followers won't take the lead in years to come. Many people need to be led, and have no concept of how to live their lives unless being told what to do. It is something we are ditching in favour of a more secular life.

[Spoonboy]

It seems to me that he will deserve all he gets!!! The problem is, while the media allow such a vile person to air their discriminatory and hateful views, they will continue to do so and become, if only in their eyes, a martyr to their stupid cause: if, on the other hand, they were not given the air time so to speak to preach their hatred they would become obscure.

Rest in Peace Lee Rigby.

[emmie]

some seem to think that the more he is on preaching his hatred the more it will eventually see his demise, at least on tv news, i don't see that, he has been doing this for a long while, so it hasn't worked so far.

[Philoctetes]

This chappy is NOT representative of Islam, and can NOT back up his inflammatory remarks from the Koran. His "authority" comes from additional texts, like someone quoting "Bel and the Dragon" as having a direct bearing on Christianity. What is needed - and it is very disappointing that we have not seen it - is for these extremist preachers being confronted by mainstream Islamic preachers, in as public a way as possible.