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Rubyrose | 13:16 Sun 01st Jul 2007 | Body & Soul
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Last night me and my mates went out on the town... well me and my friend and her sister in law.
We were drinking wine at my friends first and started chatting about how none of us had ever been in a real fight. We said we had had rows before but never proper fights.

Then we went to town and enjoyed a great night out.

Then afterwards we went to Subway to get some food and as we walked in, some ginger girl was shouting at some guy... he stood there pretty placid and she was drunk and falling about and shouting at him.. she wasn't with him though. So I leant in and said to him 'What's happening?' and he said 'I called her a Ginger minger'. So I laughed and walked off.
I didn't laugh because he called her ginger.. just because she was going mental at the comment.

So I queued (sp?) for my food and was chatting to my friends and this girl was still going on and on and everyone was getting annoyed at how loud she was... So I screamed at her to shut up.. and she looked at me and just mouthed off some cr@p, so I said 'Love, you're a little bit f*cking loud'... Then she told me to shut up and she went outside... Now this p*ssed me off... So I got my food and went outside but my friends were still in the queue... I started chatting to the guy again and he told me how she came in mouthing off at him and he called her a ginger minger. I high fived him at this point and the ginger girl saw and started having a go at me and I was having a go at her and then we were kind of trying to get at eachother but her friend stepped in and was trying to chat to me..
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I think its obvious Ruby wasnt looking for a fight, I have definitely said things that could have caused fights whilst drunk.

a) telling a girl who was trying to get her grubby mits over my lushly date, "Look love, you dont stand a chance"
b) asking what one of our doormen saw in one of our doorwomen, she looks like a bloke ffs.
oh and the list continues.
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John, are you mental? Are you actually mental? You are baffling me!

If I had come into AB and said 'I was drunk on Saturday night, I was screaming at some guy coz he called me Ginger. I went mad at him. My friends tried to stop me but I was so annoyed, I wanted to kill him. Some silly cow in the Subway told me to shut up so I started on her as well. Then my friends took me out side and away from the building to calm me down but I was still angry. I saw the girl who told me to shut up, chatting to the guy who called me names. I don't know what they were saying but he high fived her and they laughed so it must have been about me. I stormed over there and started on her. She started mouthing off and my friend tried to stop me and pull me away but now I wanted to fight her so I grabbed her hair and then she grabbed mine back and we had a fight'...... If I had said that, I'd have got f*cking slaughtered in here for causing a fight..... You guys are so fickle... John just coz you don't like me mate, it don't make me wrong!

Bullying????? You are having a f*cking laugh aren't you????????????
Jeeez... You clearly don't know what bullying is! If I had wanted to fight the girl or anything of the sort I'd have walked up to her in Subway and punched her in the face! That would have been bullying.. that would have been interferring.. but I am not the sort to do that and I am definately not the sort to fight!
The only reason I am 'ashamed' is coz I am too old to be fighting! I am 23 this month and it's just embarrassing! I am in no way feeling guilty because she started it and she asked for it!

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It wasn't my dispute... You're right... which is why I didn't get involved.. Like it was none of her business when I was chatting to the guy outside of the Subway.... She had no idea what we were chatting about and it was about 5mins later that I high fived him.. so she was watching us like a hawk... she was just itching for an excuse to row with us! It was however my right to tell her to shut the hell up when she was banging on and the guy was out side, with him mates, ignoring her, and everyone in the Subway was wishing her harm!
Your life ruby, not mine, i have better things to worry about other than someone pulling someones elses hair. By the way i dont pretend to know you and for your info there is no stick up my arse.
A sign of maturity is to be able to listen to anothers point of view with out chucking your toys out of the pram.
Personally i think you were just to blame, because if you were more sober you would have dealt with the situation a little better.
Also if you read some of your posts , you were in your own admission screaming at her, and how did you know that they did nt have a romantic involvment, you said you were talking about the food not about her?
Please be polite because i can be equally rude ruby.
Rubes no offense here doll but I think you should have left telling the girl to "shut up" up to the management of the Subway establishment. You aggravated this angry person more than they already were. You should have ignored her. Why didn't the other customers told her to be quiet? They were smart and realized how hyped and crazy she was being. I think you looked for what you got. Suppose you had gotten some part of you broken, it would have been because of your doing.
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Tattoo - I have also pointed out, I asked the guy before he went outside, what was going on, I spoke to a girl he was with and the Ginger Minger was screaming at him saying 'Who the hell do you think you are? You don't even know me'! I'm sure that's proof enough.

Also a sign of maturity is to be able to tell someone you disagree with their actions without calling them names or being patronising with words like 'cherub'.. therefore indicating that they are physically or mentally younger than you, or still a baby, not an adult, someone who is to young to understand.

I was probably more sober than her.. but by no means 'Sober'!

Feel free to be equally rude Tattoo.. as far as I am concerned you have been already.. You just decided to hide it behind sly comments and remarks. Unlike me who can't be so condecending. I say what I mean... even if it is just AB!
Ruby, with out me sounding rude because may be i have gone off on a tangent, its difficult to understand fully what went on as none of us was there. It is however quite obvious that it has annoyed you. When you said about would it have been ok (the senario) if you had done all those things, i would never have slated you because i would of understood, and because you wrote the senario so elaquently seems to me that you probably understood why she acted the way she did,not to say she was right at all with her actions,no one has the right to hit anyone under any circumstances, but sometimes we have the ability to understand and forgive them for acting like a complete plank.
Is that answer to your satisfaction?
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Society - I completely understand that... and I do think that telling her to shut up was my only mistake... She would never have targeted me if I hadn't have said that to her in the Subway..... but.... Other than that one action... I didn't really do anything wrong.... And even if I had been sober, she had been sober and that guy wasn't there and she was just mouthing off.. I'd have still told her to shut up... She was doing my head in... and I'd do it again. When people annoy me, I tell them to shut up! I didn't tell her I was going to shut her up or batter her or anything like that... I said Shut up... she looked at me.. I said 'You're a bit f*cking loud love'... (But I didn't shout that at her or anything... I just said it matter of factly)... And then she said 'You shut up, and walked outside'... When I went out, she wasn't there... she was other side of the area where Subway customers were gathered.... The guy was right by the door when I walked out and I started chatting to him...
No Ruby i am not nor am I swearing and ranting and raving, perhaps you should ask the same questuion of yourself?,by your own admission you shouted at her

So I queued (sp?) for my food and was chatting to my friends and this girl was still going on and on and everyone was getting annoyed at how loud she was... So I screamed at her to shut up.. and she looked at me and just mouthed off some cr@p

how about that for a contadiction? "everyone was getting annoyed at how loud she was so I screamed at her" lol
yes i do know what a bully is, in a word
YOU!!!
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Tattoo - It makes more sense! My point is, I posted a Q letting people know what had happened but finished it with 'Have you ever had a fight?'... Suddenly I get slated for being in a fight and it's by the same people who can't help but follow me round AB... being Legend and John. Everywhere I go.. No wonder people say they stalk me! It's becoming too odd!
However... I admit I was wrong for getting involved... even as little as I did... but this girl was much more to blame than I was and she was looking for a fight. Turns out I'm just the mug who couldn't help but fall for it. I have never been one to let someone have a go at me while I just stand there and take it and the second she started I gave as good as I got... At the end of the day all she did was pull my hair.. and she ended up crying.... She will know better for next time.. that you can't go round trying to fight people and walking away without a scratch!
Excuse me, I think your the one calling people names ruby, like ginger minger and you continue to call her that through out your posts, that to me sounds like a bully.
For your info you can tell people to shut up if you so wish but you have to realise other people have the right too as well, and as i said before with that attitude i only wish you well because you would nt last long in my neck of the woods.Treat people as you would like to be treated.
I stalk you???
where have I ever stalked you???
get over yourself Rubyrose mate,
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John, if thats your arguement for bullying then I retaliate with this comment you left in another thread of mine, after I pointed out I couldn't do a certain event because I had epilepsy, there fore it being boring that I couldn't get involved:

"I wouldn't describe you as boring RR
silly, vain, immature, not very clever yes, but never boring!!"

Now is that on par with telling someone to shut up? Or is that more vindictive? Hmmmm.. makes you wonder.


nothing vindictive there ruby, just me describing your personality
now to counter your daft accusation that I stalk you, do you remember that on another website , facebook, you asked the question
"what do you think about the johnlambert Vs Ward-Minter situation"?
And I'm stalking you?????
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Hahahahaha John.... If I remember correctly you searched for me on Myspace and tried to add me as a friends, you joined the Facebook group of mine.. where I posted 'What do you think of the Wardy V's John thing'? As it was right in the middle of another row between the two of you... I didn't come looking for you... I posted a Q in an AB group! Me get over myself? You reckon! I am not the one saying you are stalking me.. I am pointing out that people have said it! Jeeeeez...

And Tattoo.. I didn't 'keep' reffering to her as the 'ginger minger'... I kept saying 'the girl he called a ginger minger'... Its easier coz funny enough, I didn't catch her name.... I only ONCE called her the ginger minger and that was in one or two posts back and as I was writing it I thought 'I bet people pick up on this' but I couldn't be bothered to, once again, write 'the girl who was called the ginger minger'!!!!!!!!!
I don't know where your 'neck of the woods' conststs of but I'm couldn't care less. I wouldn't go somewhere and not stand up for myself just because it might be a scary area.... At the end of the day I can only do what I feel is right at the time and not letting someone walk all over me is definately one of those things.... regardless of the post code!
I dont know anything about any one stalking anybody, but ruby perhaps you should take it as a compliment that certain people like to reply to your questions.
And to answer your question yes i have had many fights, when i was younger, but only controlled e.g kick boxing.
I dont like confrontation out side of sport purely because i have a bad temper thats why i started boxing it taught me how to control myself and also gave me a few kickings as well! I dont mean to be condecending rose and im sorry to hear that your epilepsy stops you from doing certain things that you would like to do.
You know perhaps the red head was having a bad day it happens, im having one!
As far as legend and john are concerned i personally find them quite ammusing but im sure sometimes they are just trying to wind you up (with love) .....
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Oh and John... you aren't describing my personality.. You are describing your opinion of my personality! There is a difference!
I joined because you asked me to, and I left just as quick, your little group didn't exactly set the world on fire now did it?
Anyway I apologise, I was wrong and I would like to say on your post , in front of everyone else who reads this on Answerbank that I was 100% in the wrong earlier when i said you are not boring.
You ARE boring
tattoo1094
I've got my Orange belt at Chinese Kickboxing,
Nice one john new i liked you!!

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