What A Surprise?

[Sqad]

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-6194843/Two-friends-London-East-End-school-different-lives.html

Two friends, involved in an educational experiment where on was sent to Rugby School and the other followed the state system. I will let you read what happened.
Not all lower class pupils can go to public School, but at least decades ago the Grammar school education was available only to be replaced by the Comprehensive system
Equal opportunity is the key, coupled with discipline, hard work and determination, which is the ethics of the Public Schools and was the ethics of the Grammar Schools.
Determination, opportunity and discipline........

[Peter Pedant]

Same experiment was done in 2003

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/education/education-news/public-school-expels-the-boy-plucked-from-poverty-for-tv-103747.html

black kid packed off to Downside - now in the news for something else - and chucked out after two years - by the famously forgiving Leo Maidlow Davies. Later gave an interview to the News of the Screws with a kid in tow - saying his demise was all Downsides fault

so opportunity is NOT the only determinant

Altho the article said Booze was the cause - at the time they said he had taken a phone off another boy, admitted he had done so and refused to restore it.
and the famously forgiving Leo said: think about it - if you dont give it back you are going to have to go
He went

[Baldric]

I went to Grammar School, the difference I noticed was that they taught me how to learn and not just tried to feed me facts. They made me want to learn things for which I am ever grateful

[anotheoldgit]

sp1814

You are reading my comment wrongly, I did not mention the proportions of university-educated, and the ‘upper class’ locked up versus the proportion of the poor and less well off in our prisons.

But what I was saying is that if it was down to upbringing and education, there would not be any with these advantages in our jails.

[sp1814]

AOG

Education, environment and upbringing play a large role, but these are not absolutes.

A privately educated child, who lives in beautiful surroundings in Herefordshire, the child of a lawyer and and a heart surgeon - has automatic head start on the child born to two scag-heads on the Moorside.