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Khandro | 07:21 Thu 02nd Aug 2018 | News
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Why do so much of the media lie and wish to denigrate Donald Trump? Isn't he the best US President for generations?
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jim; Before pointing the finger at other country's systems, what about UKIP getting 4 million votes and no MPs ?
// Mexico will pay for the wall. It will not cost the US anything. //

And how is that going?

I won’t out that as a lie, because absolutely no one (except Trump), believed it for a nono-second.

He is a snake oil salesman with the attention span of a goldfish. His Russian backers must be laughing their socks off.
"jim; Before pointing the finger at other country's systems, what about UKIP getting 4 million votes and no MPs ?"

Also unacceptable -- and indeed you will find many, many posts from me on this site saying the exact same thing.
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Gromit; // Mexico will pay for the wall. It will not cost the US anything. //

And how is that going?

Pretty well for such a huge project, and it will be paid for by Mexico, not directly of course, that was never what he meant.
KARL// If in the UK Labour had a similar monopoly on power through crafty manipulation of the electoral system would the same people still be encouraging celebration or at least quiet acceptance ? There is democracy and then there is democracy. //. 12:35 Thu

It's a well known fact that Labour need fewer votes per MP elected.
Sure i read that in the 1997 election they needed half the number of votes per MP.
But don't worry, they are going to alter electoral boundaries (soon) to correct this disgraceful bias.
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Gromit; I think it's time you were styxhexenhammered :0)
A bit of a shame that Khandro seems to have not yet acknowledged my criticism of the UK system because it screwed UKIP in 2015.

I should also add that spicerack is essentially correct about the election of 1997 -- it wasn't quite a 2-to-1 advantage for Labour but was near as dammit. In 1983 (another disgracefully disproportionate election, the SDP/Libs scraping 20 seats from 25% of the popular vote), the Tories had "only" a 1.2-to-1 advantage over Labour.

It's also a turnout issue: Labour has a tonne of seats that it comfortably wins on pathetically low, c.50% turnouts (and the Tories have the opposite problem).
The Electoral College system is a device to defend the interests sparsely populated agricultural states against those of populous urban ones.
I could be wrong.

And on the other hand who gives a cuff about the farmers?

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