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Alleged Yellowhammer Leaker Sacked.
Isn't the enemy within always worse than the enemy without ?
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// The cops marched her out of No 10 while she protested her innocence. //
Someone working against her bosses and Government should be sacked. They were demanding to see her phone, so it sounds like they couldn’t prove the allegation and were fishing for evidence.
If she is telling the truth and there is no evidence, then a hefty claim for unfair dismissal against No.10 will follow.
Someone working against her bosses and Government should be sacked. They were demanding to see her phone, so it sounds like they couldn’t prove the allegation and were fishing for evidence.
If she is telling the truth and there is no evidence, then a hefty claim for unfair dismissal against No.10 will follow.
I looked this up, it seems you can get 2 years in the slammer;
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>>> presumably all no. 10 staff have signed the official secrets act.
Nobody ever signs the Official Secrets Act. (It's a myth). People are only subject to the provisions of the Act is they're either members of the security and intelligence services or if they've been officially notified (e.g. as part of their contract of employment) that they're subject to the provisions of the Act.
Even if people are, as above, covered by the Act, it's still not an offence under that Act to leak information unless it relates to "the work of, or in support of, the security and intelligence services or any part of them" or to defence, international relations, 'foreign confidences', 'special investigation powers' or to matters which might lead to the commission of crime.
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Nobody ever signs the Official Secrets Act. (It's a myth). People are only subject to the provisions of the Act is they're either members of the security and intelligence services or if they've been officially notified (e.g. as part of their contract of employment) that they're subject to the provisions of the Act.
Even if people are, as above, covered by the Act, it's still not an offence under that Act to leak information unless it relates to "the work of, or in support of, the security and intelligence services or any part of them" or to defence, international relations, 'foreign confidences', 'special investigation powers' or to matters which might lead to the commission of crime.
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In 1983, Civil Servant Sarah Tidsdal was jailed for 6 months for leaking to the Guardian. She was charged under the Official Secrets Act.
In 1989, Clive Ponting was also charged for leaking under the same Act. He was expecting the same fate as Tidsdal. But at his trial he argued that he did leak but as it was to a member of Parliament, Tam Dayall, then it was in the public interest and so he wasn’t guilty of the crime for which he was charged. The jury agreed, and they acquitted him.
In 1989, Clive Ponting was also charged for leaking under the same Act. He was expecting the same fate as Tidsdal. But at his trial he argued that he did leak but as it was to a member of Parliament, Tam Dayall, then it was in the public interest and so he wasn’t guilty of the crime for which he was charged. The jury agreed, and they acquitted him.
Cummings had previously pointed the finger for the leak at an unnamed former minister.
// At the meeting with Mr Cummings, Ms Khan handed over both her personal and work phones, and her phone logs were checked.
Evidence was found that she had been in touch with former colleagues but not that she had been involved in leaking any sensitive government information. //
So they sacked her anyway without any evidence. Big unfair dismissal payout headed Ms Khan’s way soon.
// At the meeting with Mr Cummings, Ms Khan handed over both her personal and work phones, and her phone logs were checked.
Evidence was found that she had been in touch with former colleagues but not that she had been involved in leaking any sensitive government information. //
So they sacked her anyway without any evidence. Big unfair dismissal payout headed Ms Khan’s way soon.
heeeeeelp!
I am looking for an alliterative adjective
for the average Aber, that is a word that describes the fella but also has some letter in common - Like Boris the Bonker !
for a leaker
like Sandra the Soothsayer ! but er she wasnt soothsaying
if she were Leo - the leo the leaker would do - but she isnt named leo
sandra the secrets whisperer - as an Aber might complain - that one goes on and on
yeah like Dominic the Deleter
Dominic the Death Eater
only for Leaky Sandra - or whatever her name is
I am looking for an alliterative adjective
for the average Aber, that is a word that describes the fella but also has some letter in common - Like Boris the Bonker !
for a leaker
like Sandra the Soothsayer ! but er she wasnt soothsaying
if she were Leo - the leo the leaker would do - but she isnt named leo
sandra the secrets whisperer - as an Aber might complain - that one goes on and on
yeah like Dominic the Deleter
Dominic the Death Eater
only for Leaky Sandra - or whatever her name is
we have had Dominic the prick see previously- hey but that is not very alliterative
Dominc the Downing st er donkey drawers or something (*)
(*) sozza beyond the fringe sketch - alan bennett sending a telegram on stage - bless your little bottie boos - from Desmond Donkey Drawers. yeah yeah a long time ago 1962 dubbl sozza - sent from my appoota
Dominc the Downing st er donkey drawers or something (*)
(*) sozza beyond the fringe sketch - alan bennett sending a telegram on stage - bless your little bottie boos - from Desmond Donkey Drawers. yeah yeah a long time ago 1962 dubbl sozza - sent from my appoota
"this prick Cummings" is savvy enough to know how to counter the undemocratic referendum thwarters and so is top aide to our PM. That's why he has power. And why the antidemocrats want him gone. However he's unconcerned about who he annoys as long as his goals are reached so this sort of incident is always a risk. Javid is feeling attacked and obviously wants to support his choice of staff. Johnson needs to support his main advisor that is helping achieve that which is necessary. Ultimately for the sake of both the party and the nation they need to agree to disagree and put this behind them.
Yeah, I had to sign under official secrets too. Many moons ago.
Yeah, I had to sign under official secrets too. Many moons ago.
thank you bhg for entering into this important and relevant contest
Sonya the Slipper - because she slipped up
oo- sonya the sacked !
because she was ( sacked )
In 1989, Clive Ponting....
yeah incredibly the Clive Ponting case is relevant precedent now
I thought it was just straightforward jury nullification - the jury just didnt convict ..... because we never know why - with Juries in this country.
Judgie baby I recall in his summing up told the jury that nothing they had heard could cause them to acquit, and there wasnt a public interest defence
and they acquitted....
and it did cause a third or fourth official secrets act
Sonya the Slipper - because she slipped up
oo- sonya the sacked !
because she was ( sacked )
In 1989, Clive Ponting....
yeah incredibly the Clive Ponting case is relevant precedent now
I thought it was just straightforward jury nullification - the jury just didnt convict ..... because we never know why - with Juries in this country.
Judgie baby I recall in his summing up told the jury that nothing they had heard could cause them to acquit, and there wasnt a public interest defence
and they acquitted....
and it did cause a third or fourth official secrets act
oh come on, that isnt alliterative, and doesnt even make sense !
sonya the soothsayer makes more sense, in that she could be, (one) but not a very good one, as she didnt foresee her own demise ( ter daaah!)
This is Boris learning what it is like to be a PM
different to being a posh boy at Eton huh Boris ?
and making an Eton Mess(*) of it all
(*) actually a pudding of strawberries and cream
// was conclusive evidence of wrongdoing needed anyway ? //
Yes if you are going to terminate that person’s employment.
Cummings said on Monday that the leaker was an ex-Minister, then a few days later a lowly civil servant gets the chop.
They looked for evidence on her phones, but didn’t find any, but fired her anyway.
Cummings should not be anywhere near Downing Street, he was found in contempt of parliament in March and was admonished by the Commons Select Committee of Privileges.
Yes if you are going to terminate that person’s employment.
Cummings said on Monday that the leaker was an ex-Minister, then a few days later a lowly civil servant gets the chop.
They looked for evidence on her phones, but didn’t find any, but fired her anyway.
Cummings should not be anywhere near Downing Street, he was found in contempt of parliament in March and was admonished by the Commons Select Committee of Privileges.
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