Religionists. What Have You Got To Offer Me?

[nailit]

Seriously, what you got to offer me?
Or is it a case of what I can avoid!

I'm deadly (excuse the pun) serious. But what can your belief system/religion/spiritual tradition/ offer me except a free pass out of hell?

An eternity of Hallelujah's?
For Eternity????

[eve1974]

Haha theland we’ve just bought a caravan in north wales (yesterday)

[Theland]

Fond memories of caravan holidays in Talacre, Town and Abergele. Even in the wet:-)

[Theland]

Barmouth was best.

[eve1974]

Very neat Barmouth is where we just bought !

[Theland]

Well done you. Lovely scenic area.

[anneasquith]

I told you ........ I have nothing to offer you .

[tomus42]

I remember a question on here once which was the opposite. A believer of some sort asked what atheism could possibly offer them, and someone answered 'Nothing, except perhaps more free time on a Sunday'.

It did make me laugh at the time.

[Theland]

Judging by all of the pairs of jeans I see ripped at the knees these days, I'm wondering if there are numerous prayer meetings going unnoticed?

[Theland]

Tomus, I like that :-)

[nailit]

//I can't describe the pleasurable afterlife to you because I haven't been there ...... yet.//
What a surprise!!
No Viking has been to Valhalla ....yet...either!
Or the Summerlands!
Or the Elysian Fields!
Or any number of heavens.


//However, I have it on good authority that it will be joyous and eternal//
Now THIS is where I cannot abide the deceit of Christians.(Christians, as opposed to the doctrine of Christianity).
1) You have no good authority.
2) You have no idea if it will be joyous or not.
(Providing that you make the grade, and not condemned to God's all loving eternal suffering and torture)
3) How on Earth can ANYONE enjoy eternity worshipping a God (must get boring after a bit) knowing that the same God is refusing to release their loved ones from an eternal and unimaginable suffering in the flames of hell?

Genuine questions Theland.
Zero desire to 'trip you up'.

[nailit]

//A believer of some sort asked what atheism could possibly offer them//
That like asking what could a non-stamp collector possibly offer them?
Defining atheism as a belief is like defining baldness as a hair colour.
Ridiculous anologies.

[nailit]

What could an aphilatelist offer you?
Or an ategestologist?

[fiveleaves]

Nailit, I can offer you nothing whatsoever. God, can offer you salvation through his Son Jesus, forgiveness for your sins and an eternity in fellowship with Him

[Canary42]

/// Nobody is guiltless, not one. ///

How dare you accuse my one-day-old grand-daughter of being guilty just because your stupid little book says so.

In my book you are the guilty one making such scurrilous accusations against an innocent child. I suggest you put your own house in order before pointing the finger.

[nailit]

//God, can offer you salvation through his Son Jesus, forgiveness for your sins and an eternity in fellowship with Him//

And if I dont/can't believe that??
(NB, Didnt say 'Won't)

[Peter Pedant]

// Fond memories of caravan holidays in Acre, Towyn and Abergele.//

yeah foo when you arrived, the townsfolk called it - the Siege of Acre
( ter daaah !)

[Theland]

Nailit, you are having an attack of loose cannons again!
How do you know that I am being deceitful?
How do you know by what authority I hold my beliefs?

[naomi24]

Your own authority. Give yourself a pat on the back.

[Peter Pedant]

// How dare you accuse my one-day-old grand-daughter of being guilty just because your stupid little book says so.//

um I dont think it does (in the bible)
Isnt original sin ( tell me I'm wrong) a Christian - post jesus add on?

John the baptist was er baptising - "I come before one and I am not even worthy to undo the clasp of his sandal" - all that bit
But John does NOT mention original sin

but Johns point was that you cdnt get to the Kingdom of heaven without it. + along with added " I am the light and the life and thro me you will reach life everlasting"

[Peter Pedant]

just trying to help