Religionists. What Have You Got To Offer Me?

[nailit]

Seriously, what you got to offer me?
Or is it a case of what I can avoid!

I'm deadly (excuse the pun) serious. But what can your belief system/religion/spiritual tradition/ offer me except a free pass out of hell?

An eternity of Hallelujah's?
For Eternity????

[Peter Pedant]

o god this is like a TTT Brexit thread ( sozza fred)

There is an idea of Heaven IN the NT - dives and lazarus springs to mind
including - why cant I go back and tell them (cute huh?)
and I think the answer is - - -if they do not take the message of my beloved son you dont have a chance,

can we stop the endless - foo what happens den later? threads

[Peter Pedant]

I mean one fred has reached 200
and hasnt said ANYTHING !

[Peter Pedant]

Altho I think that is why the Anglo Saxons were so easy to convert ( 1500 y ago that is! )
no mobile phones then, you say
no - they had an idea of Valhalla - fun place nether world


and Heaven sounded much better - and the cow horned ones ( anglo saxons that is!) all said - oo yeah we will have some of that please

[Mamyalynne]

I doubt I have anything to offer you Nailit , I don't think I have the qualifications that may be required - my advice to you is as it ever was.

Live your life the best way you can, appreciate the beauty around you and do things that make you happy.

[nailit]

//Live your life the best way you can, appreciate the beauty around you and do things that make you happy.//

I do that without religion anyway.

Mamy, you sure that your not a Buddhist? ;-)

[Mamyalynne]

Maybe I am , who knows.

If you do all that without any religious belief then you've cracked it - well done.

[royfromaus]

Why should they offer you anything?

[Spungle]

I'm no "religionist" but my Christian faith sustains me through bad and good times, and gives deep soul peace (not only for eternity) for this life; full and free forgiveness for the past, grace for the present and hope for the future. It's a gift offered to all, indiscriminately, not based on any merit on our part, but simple repentance towards God, and faith in the Lord Jesus Christ.

No one is going to force it down your neck, that's not God's way- but salvation is open to "whosoever will." The universal call of “whosoever will” is the most amazing aspect of the gospel of salvation. This “whosoever will” includes you and me. It includes everyone and anyone. John 3:16. Best wishes in your searching, Nailit.

[Khandro]

It's a long & winding road, to navigate it you need more than brains, you need heart too.

[woofgang]

I have nothing to offer you. I am not an evangelical....and I don't see why anybody should offer you anything. Do your own research, make your own decisions. I know what I belive but that doesn't mean that I think you should believe it too.

[Theland]

Listen to Spungle. Concise and accurate.

[mjwman]

What is salvation please?
I have lived a good life without a belief in a deity. I care for others and do not steal goods or other mens wives. So why do I need forgiveness and this salvation?
Genuine question.

[Khandro]

One of my greatest loves was another man's wife:





M
my mother.

[Theland]

Mjwman - the bible tells us that all have sinned in thought, word or deed.
Nobody is guiltless, not one.
Therefore we are guilty before God of sin.
A big problem.
Nobody can take the punishment for sin for you, because they have their own price to pay.
Only somebody completely without sin can take the punishment for you, for me, for everybody.
Jesus did this for us.
Now we are offered the free gift of forgiveness.
All we have to do is repent of our sin and accept the fee gift.

[andy-hughes]

Khandro - // One of my greatest loves was another man's wife:





M
my mother. //

That's quite sinister, and unpleasant.

[Theland]

There something in Hamlet about that ..... I think.

[Mamyalynne]

It's a very old sentiment.

https://tinyurl.com/ykzd2mf7

[Khandro]

Did you not love your mother andy?

[Peter Pedant]

can't we just tack this onto the 200-er ?