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Theland | 16:14 Fri 31st Jan 2020 | Religion & Spirituality
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What can you say that you know one thing about evolution?
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Quite aside from anything else, you are still setting far too much store by the people who are speaking, and far too little by what they are actually saying. Evaluate the evidence for yourself, if you can -- what one PhD says, or a Professor, or even a Nobel Laureate or two, means nothing. They may be right or they may be wrong, but who they are is irrelevant to that....
15:20 Thu 06th Feb 2020
If this thread hasn't provided you with a satisfactory answer to it's question, I find it goes a long way towards answering the question posed in the previous thread.
Theland. I have not insulted you. What I posted is a verifiable and accurate description of your behaviour. If anything it is charitable compared to the reality.

You claim that there are scientists who would disparage my clear and detailed explanations yet you provide not a single word to address what I have said or to specify what "assumptions" I have made. You don't quote anyone, just post links to nonsensical videos that don't even address the points that have been made.

I posted simple mathematics that demonstrate just one non-harmful genetic change in each tens of thousands of matings since our last common ancestor would result in the well established, accurately measured, total genetic difference between humans and chimps. This clearly and unambiguously demonstrates that the difference between micro evolution (which you accept) and macroevolution is nothing more than a matter of degree.

You have not provided a single word of rebuttal against any part of that explanation yet you arrogantly disparage it and falsely claim that it is religious belief.

Again I ask that you specify exactly what invalid assumptions you believe I gave made. You won't because you dare not engage in discussion.
Theland. https://youtu.be/Wf32BXMSN7A

Nearly eight minutes in before offering anything but platitudes.

He claims the skull could not have been dated at four million years. Wrong. In fact the skull was dated by the strata in which it was found.

Sorry can't go on. This is the most boring video I have ever watched.
Theland, you remind me of someone who insists he hears things that go bump in the night and refuses to accept a rational explanation. He does that because he doesn’t want a rational explanation. He prefers to believe that what he hears really is an inexplicable bump in the night. Your prophecies have been explained - rationally.

The main issue I have with your creation theory is that you claim to know who or what is responsible. If creation is an option it could well have been the work of some extra-terrestrial, super-brained, computer geek working from another universe. The truth is, you have no idea.
Based on all the evidence I've seen so far from creationist I'm more inclined towards belief in the manifest existence of his evil twin that in that of an alleged creator.
I think Theland believes in his evil twin too.
I'm not sure theland is convinced at all in what he believes. Otherwise, it wouldn't be necessary to answer all questions by trying to find someone else's views.
Theland, I wasn't suggesting my post about the eye was science. I was asking why it is supposed to be impossible?
It's been said many times. Theland seeks endorsement of his belief.
Theland, you have posted yet another video, this one just over one hour long. How on earth would it take you days to research (the information is in front of you) and write a precis on the videos salient points? That's all we have repeatedly asked you to do.
I'm not sure why you even need videos or research, theland? You know what you believe and why, or you wouldn't believe it yourself. Why isn't that enough?
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I post t he videos for two reasons.
First, to prove that there are talented and respected scientists who reject neo Dawkins Darwinism.
Second, so you can just quickly flick through them to see the names of the scientists and get a flavour of the rebuttals.
Beso - I am not a scientist, but I will go back to your posts and attempt to address them.
Thank you.
The proof of evolution is overwhelming. The proof of creationism is underwhelming.

All there is to say really.
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Sparkly - Thank you.
With respect your comment is meaningless.
I suspect it depends more on your worldview rather than your knowledge.
It doesn't honestly help, theland. I don't follow Darwin, Dawkins or anyone else. All atheists don't "believe" the same. Any of them being wrong in one area, is never going to persuade me that the only other answer must be a god.

I suspect scientists are closer to the answer, as they want everything properly proven without just hoping for the best.

But I doubt anyone knows the real answers, and there is no need to, in order to at least rule out the irrational and unlikely.

There is no point suggesting that if others don't know the answer, you must be right, as if there can only ever be two alternatives. You have strong beliefs, which you claim to "know" like many do... but can't make sense enough of them to persuade anyone else. I'm not a scientist either... just common sense would do for me x

//you can just quickly flick through them to see the names of the scientists and get a flavour of the rebuttals. //

How would we know where to stop flicking and watch? A better idea is for you tell us the names of the scientists and give us a flavour of the rebuttals.
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Beso - 01/012/2020 @22:27 - With respect, you look at the shared genes and make an assumption that one more little step would prove common ancestry.
Regarding the link, the science paper say the evidence they found regarding a link between acorn worms and a common ancestor, SUGGEST a precursor to certain human features. A suggestion. No proof.
Your mathematics regarding generations of mutations is impressive, but again, even Dawkins could not give one single example of an increase of genetic information that led to a mutational advantage.
This is again assumption without hard evidence.
I shall try to address the next point.
Assumptions without hard evidence are your forte, Theland.
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Working on it Naomi.
Neanderthals have interbred with humans, while being separate species. In any case, "species" is just a category invented by humans. It may be wrong.
I don't know where you're going to find it, Theland. I've looked more than most I'd say - and it simply isn't there.

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