Is It Possible That Creationism And Evolution Both Happened?

[pdq1]

At presnt it seems you are either in one camp or the other and pour scorn if it doesn't agree with your own thinking. If you are in the creation camp the usual question is who created the creator. If you believe in evolution its difficult to come across crossed species and no plausible solution is given how man crossed the species barrier.

Wouldn't a better solution to believe there was initially a creator (god or otherwise) and within each species evolution took place to provide the variety we now see. The creator's creator could possibly be explained by negative time principles of which we know so little about as we only work in positive time.

[naomi24]

Jim, //Interesting point about fairies Naomi because perhaps the only reason religion is more acceptable is simply because it's been around longer. That must play some part, surely?//

Perhaps, but don't forget a Mormon was taken very seriously as a main contender in the recent US presidential elections - and that's a relatively new religion with some very strange ideas - but with millions of followers. I think the number of adherents is far more influential than the age of the religion. 'Religions' are taken seriously, whereas 'cults' are dismissed, so we have to ask at what point a cult becomes a religion. Look at it this way. If millions believed in fairies, we would all be expected to respect that belief - and yet, in the complete absence of evidence for either fairies or a creator god, the only difference between the two is the numbers of believers - and so we ridicule one and defer to the other - well, some of us do. ;o)

[naomi24]

Keyplus, that sounds mightily like you're succumbing to the ideas of Mr Pascal - and in your case, that can only mean progress. Well done!

[jim360]

True naomi. Ideas which have been around for a while do tend to have more followers though. So maybe it's a mixture of the two, numbers and age, that can give respectability to views that are debatable and at times even crackpot.

[naomi24]

Jim, one thing's for sure. If a few people say they believe in fairies, society says they're away with the fairies, but when millions believe magical tales from so-called 'holy' books, the rest of the world is expected to consider them to be rational - and in the main, does. Personally, I think they're all away with the fairies. :o)

[JessicaNewfer]

The Creator of the universe, Jehovah God, does not have a Creator.

[naomi24]

Jessica, that's an unsupported personal belief - nothing more.

[LazyGun]

Amazing that Jessica can shoehorn 3 unsupported personal beliefs into such a short sentence Naomi :)

1.That there was a creator of the universe.
2.That the divine creator was the "Jehovah God", rather than 1 of the many, many other ones
3.That this "Jehovah God" does not itself have a creator.

Shoehorning so many unsupported beliefs into just one sentence that purports to be fact is probably some sort of talent......

[naomi24]

Good thinking LG. Sneaky. ;o)