Three Questions

[Khandro]

With Brexit out of the way (?!) can we now turn to more momentous issues? I refer to those posed by St Augustine in reference to Creation; Who made it? By what means? & Why?

[naomi24]

//What part of the prophecies regarding the Jewish people does not agree with Jewish history? //

We've been there before. Where there's a will, prophecy is not difficult to fulfil.

[Theland]

That sounds like a politicians answer.
Fair enough then.

[naomi24]

Theland, you're worming out again - and you've ignored my post at 22:51 which really isn't surprising.

[Theland]

No not worming out of anything.
Are you really questioning my integrity?
Me justify Gods will?
No, I accept it.

[naomi24]

Theland, //Are you really questioning my integrity?//

Yes, I am because accepting ‘God’s will’ without question isn’t rational. No one, God (if he exists) included, should be exempt from justified criticism. The holocaust, according to you, was part of his plan to return the Jews to Israel, but I have to ask why an all-powerful super-being would need such a horrifying tool - or any tool at all - in order to fulfil his promises? Perhaps you should ask yourself the same question. Nothing, absolutely nothing, can ever justify the horrors of the holocaust.

[andy-hughes]

Nical - // Nical - The Biblical prophecies do indeed hold up. You just haven't studied it I'm afraid. //

There you are - join the increasingly large band of AB'ers who are too thick to understand the world as Theland sees it.

[Theland]

Andy no need to use that tone.
Just tell me where the prophecy and the history deviate?
Apparently, Naomi can't.

[Old_Geezer]

One doesn't have to find deviations when only those predictions that just happen by chance to seem to come true, are considered.

Any chance of this, "It's God, not it's not, yes it is", usual discussion being knocked on the head and there being further sensible suggestions to try to answer the OP ? (Perhaps the mention of some RC saint in the OP ensured it'd descend into the usual squabble" :-( )

[Theland]

OG - that post contributes nothing of any worth.

[fender62]

holocaust, He plays His games, we play ours! To show our appreciation for so much power, we keep Heaven packed with fresh souls! good quote...if your insane, the god of the bible...quote
Harry Lime : You know, I never feel comfortable on these sort of things. Victims? Don't be melodramatic. Look down there. Tell me. Would you really feel any pity if one of those dots stopped moving forever? If I offered you twenty thousand pounds for every dot that stopped, would you really, old man, tell me to keep my money, or would you calculate how many dots you could afford to spare? Free of income tax, old man. Free of income tax - the only way you can save money nowadays.

[Old_Geezer]

On the contrary, any post that tries to bring the thread back to the questions posed is priceless.
Unfortunately one can not say the same about the squabble posts earlier.

[Theland]

I have tried to stay on script, but deviated to answer questions.

[andy-hughes]

Theland - // Andy no need to use that tone. //

I am not using any 'tone' and I don't need a lesson from anyone who patronises people because he thinks they are less educated.

// Just tell me where the prophecy and the history deviate?
Apparently, Naomi can't. //

You are confusing me with someone who cares - please check back to the first response on this thread.

[pixie374]

Theland, a lot of your posts are suggesting we should convince you that you are wrong. But we have no reason to believe all that in the first place. Traditionally, you should really be showing us how you are "right".

[Khandro]

AH says //You are confusing me with someone who cares - please check back to the first response on this thread.//

To save everyone the tedium of doing so, his response was;

"Don't know

Don't know

Don't care."

Doesn't that just about sum you up; ignorant & uncaring ? Actually one of the great mysteries is how on earth you were charged with being a mod.

[pixie374]

Yes- you have to be religious to do that...

[Khandro]

Actually I'm not sure of the answers myself, but not caring is unforgivable

[pixie374]

Not caring about religion? Why?

[Mozz71]

Khandro. Wait, Andy's a mod? What kind of sick joke is that? Mods are meant to be neutral, not belittling anyone they disagree with?

[pixie374]

Mozz, posting and modding are different things...