Islam, Christianity Or Atheism?

[Khandro]

With the UK heading towards being a Muslim country by 2050 (probably before). Which of these alternatives would you prefer to live under?
The choice though, as things stand, appears to be hypothetical, I'm afraid.

[Khandro]

n. //Try imagining a western country devoid of religion. Why wouldn’t that work?// Britain & Europe WILL have a predominantly religious population, that religion will be Islam though. The demographics & policy are already in place, & the indigenous population is asleep to it.

The above gleaned statistics have not consulted the immigrant population - certainly not in Sweden.

[Khandro]

https://www.pewforum.org/2017/11/29/europes-growing-muslim-population/

[Khandro]

The problem is, that Islam is (my calculation) about 80% political & 20% religion

[naomi24]

AH, //Have at it.//

Pardon?

Khandro, you keep jumping from one subject to another. First you talk about Europe becoming Islamic, and then about countries being incapable of functioning without religion. I'm not sure what you want to discuss here.

[hereIam]

a-h talks about 'pompous lecturing' !! You do it all the bloody time ….

[hereIam]

None so blind.

[naomi24]

It's a laugh a minute around here, hereIam. :o)

[andy-hughes]

hereIam - // None so blind. //

I've been to Specsavers, I'll have you know!!!

[andy-hughes]

hereIam - // a-h talks about 'pompous lecturing' !! You do it all the bloody time … //

I'll fit right in then, won't I!!

[andy-hughes]

Naomi - // AH, //Have at it.//

Pardon? //

Granted.

It's a shortened version of 'Bring it on ...' and similar expressions.

[Khandro]

n //I'm not sure what you want to discuss here.//

Please see the OP

[naomi24]

AH, I checked that out - as I do when someone posts something I'm not familiar with - best way to learn in my opinion and to prevent me making a fool of myself - and I can honestly say I’ve learnt something so thank you. I can't see me ever using it - but how very trendy! :o)

Khandro, //Please see the OP//

I did … and see no mention of society without religion. Shall we just forget that deviation?

[andy-hughes]

Naomi - // AH, I checked that out - as I do when someone posts something I'm not familiar with - best way to learn in my opinion and to prevent me making a fool of myself - and I can honestly say I’ve learnt something so thank you. I can't see me ever using it - but how very trendy! :o) //

Thanks for that - although as I am keen to remind the House - learning something is not, sadly a guarantee against making a fool of oneself!

I heard the phrase from Jimmy Carr inviting hecklers at one of his live shows, which he does, because he loves to demolish them with relish.

[naomi24]

AH, //learning something is not, sadly a guarantee against making a fool of oneself! //

Indeed ... but it helps.

[andy-hughes]

naomi - // AH, //learning something is not, sadly a guarantee against making a fool of oneself! //

Indeed ... but it helps. //

I'd agree in the main, but the variables of who is learning, what they are learning, how much they understand what they have learned, and how they apply that knowledge and understanding are what can give rise to problems in debate, in my experience.

[naomi24]

:o/

[pixie374]

I have to agree that academic work is very helpful- but only if you can apply it in real life to real people as well.

[naomi24]

The current conversation shouldn’t be encouraged. AH will get miffed eventually and go on about others derailing the thread.

[jourdain2]

I'm not around Mondays, so missed this. I've just trawled through it and feel sad that being a Christian (which obviously means that you believe that your religion is the true one) seems to mean that you can be regarded as mentally ill and fair game. Ah well, I'll keep plugging on keeping our little, ancient (1080s) church functioning in our community; the congregation numbers are holding firm and we have a full church for special occasions such as Carol Service, Easter, Remembrance Sunday etc... Open for visitors, folks! We get quite a lot and I hope they all feel the peace and positivity in there.

Re: O.P. I would obviously prefer to live within a Christian culture, with the common understanding of history, works of art etc.. I hope I've always been a decent person, but finally committing to Christianity did make a difference to my life and the sense of belonging in my culture. Does that answer the O.P. O.K.? :)

[Khandro]

Jourdain; Yes, but what I'm implying is that it isn't necessary to even be regular church-goer (or at all) to consider yourself to be part of a tradition & living in the ethos of a Christian society.

If you trawl back through this long thread you will see several people who claim they would like to live in an atheistic society - despite the fact that it has been tried & always fails. This negativity & laissez faire attitude, I suggest leaves the door open to an influx of Islam, which as I have pointed out carries more with it than just religion.