Is Atheism And Secularization Aiding Jihadism?

[Khandro]

In his book; 'Christianity, Islam, and Atheism: The Struggle for the Soul of the West.'
Author William Kilpatrick discusses how atheists and secularists enable Islamic jihadism, (and Islam in general) to occupy the vacuum which is being created in Western Society by "multiculturism", and aid the destruction of the very fabric of British and European civilization.
Does he have a point? Do you care?

[pixie374]

We've answered some of this already
http://www.theanswerbank.co.uk/Society-and-Culture/Religion-and-Spirituality/Question1460355.html

I don't care what people believe as long as they keep within the law.

[Marshwarble]

You could say that secularism would help National Socialsm (Nazi) and the White Shirts.

[Old_Geezer]

Those with an agenda will make any excuse. No it makes no difference. Truth should not be kept under wraps so that the misguided can not rail against it. Progress and enlightenment needs to flourish until everyone gets it.

[chanel5]

If you follow the argument that not believing in an imaginary friend aids those who do believe in an imaginary friend, then it follows that not believing in the commission of murder aids those who do believe in the commission of murder, and not believing in the use of women as sex objects aids those who do believe in the use of women as sex objects. The whole idea of cause and effect in these examples is just ridiculous. Atheism (ie not believing in any spiritual god) cannot bring about extremism in those who do believe in such stories.Such extremism comes from within that particular belief, and not from others who have no belief at all.

[vetuste_ennemi]

Yes, he does have a point. And, yes, I do care. But I quarrel with the wording of the OP which suggests that belief in multiculturalism is a result of a decline in Christian belief. (They may be different symptoms associated with the same set of causes, but that's another matter). There are many atheists, I imagine, who, like me, are deeply conservative, love our cultural inheritance and despise the intellectual elites who control public discourse and educate our children. Not just contempt, but horror too, because I can see only two results if the immoral social experimentation now being conducted in the name of multiculturalism continues.

[Marshwarble]

Who are the White Shirts? I may have meant the Black Shirts.

[naomi24]

I haven't read the book but I assume he's saying that if people in the west had remained unswervingly faithful to Christianity, the troubles brought upon it by mad Islam would be no more. How so?

[Khandro]

v_e; I was hoping this would catch your eye.
Do you appreciate how, instead of bringing in and welcoming other cultures to join us as the host indigenous Western culture (something I wholeheartedly agree with) we are diluting it in order to accommodate theirs?

[Khandro]

Naomi; I don't think he's saying they would be 'no more', but that the collapsing of our culture means we are sleepwalking (deservedly) into its demise. An interview with him you can find here;
http://www.frontpagemag.com/fpm/174204/christianity-islam-and-atheism-struggle-soul-west-jamie-glazov

[beso]

The truth is quite the opposite.

The continued belief in "prophets", "holy books", worship and deities in Christianity helps encourage and justify belief in the same concepts in Islam. All Abrahamic religions preach that the world will end in a glorious Armageddon where their particular brand of faith prevails and everyone else is killed.

Only by rejecting this dangerous nonsense at every level do we truly stand against jihad.

[venator]

"Are" not "is", please

[beso]

venator //"Are" not "is", please//

No. "Everyone is" is a statement of multiple cases of a singular action.

"One is" > "every one is"

[mibn2cweus]

Perhaps I'm going out on a limb to suggest that Venator's request is in reference to the question framing this thread.

[mibn2cweus]

//Is Atheism And Secularization Aiding Jihadism?//

I'm an never any less amazed each time I see apologists attempting to shift the blame upon those who are the victims of the practitioners of religious ideologies.

[naomi24]

Atheists and secularists don't enable Islamic jihadism. Tolerance enables Islamic jihadism.

[Khandro]

mibn; //I'm an never any less amazed each time I see apologists attempting to shift the blame upon those who are the victims of the practitioners of religious ideologies.//
Would you please re-phrase that, I'm not clear what you mean, who are the victims? who are the apologists? how does it apply to the OP?

[mibn2cweus]

Apart from their victims the crimes of murder and rape would not be possible. Are we then to shift the blame for these crimes from the perpetrators to their victims? Isn't that what this thread is attempting to do in suggesting that 'Islamic jihadism is promoted by virtue of those made victims by their lack of or refusal to participate in the beliefs and practices of Islamic jihadist?

If anything I suggest secularist are made victims of jihadists by their refusal to point to religious ideologies as that which creates the divide of 'us and them' in the common cause of our humanity.

[jomifl]

It's just khandro atheist bashing again.. and getting confused., Now I know why he posted a video on multiculuralism on another thread.

[jomifl]

The ideas postulated in the question are a variant of xenophobia based on the premise that we (believers) don't understand atheism so it must be to blame for all the ills of the world. Bhuddism is an atheistic (optional) belief system which is conveniently not blamed (because it is based on beliefs?).