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Archbisop Doubts Presence Of God

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jomifl | 10:33 Sun 22nd Nov 2015 | Religion & Spirituality
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/'Paris attacks made me doubt God's presence' - archbishop



The Archbishop of Canterbury has said the terror attacks in Paris made him "doubt" the presence of God.

The Most Reverend Justin Welby told Aled Jones during an interview for the BBC's Songs Of Praise that the killings had put a "chink in his armour".

The Paris gun and suicide bomb attacks on 13 November, carried out by so-called Islamic State, left 130 people dead. /

But the previous countless millions of victims of religious persecution didn't ..how strange.
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'God if he were not present everywhere - we would be able to imagine a greater thing present everywhere and so the thing we call God would not be God ( but the greater thing may be nearer it ) '

Well, I can't imagine a greater thing anywhere.
PP; Nothing to do with objective omnipresence, but to do with an individual's awareness of it be that the Archbishop of Canterbury or jomifl.
Zacs - you arent trying

if you have a God who keeps only lets say GP hours
then one who is there all the time is greater - even tho you may say but no GP works 24 h a day ....

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Khandro,the archbishop didn't make any reference to being aware of god.
If someone is 'aware' of god, is that the same kind of awareness that detects the presence of ghosts, or UFOs. Just as watching too many SF movies may sway the imagination towards the unlikely doesn't too much churchgoing sway the imagination towards the impossible (for all practical purposes).
jomifl; // doesn't too much churchgoing sway the imagination towards the impossible// Whatever works, I thrive on the impossible.
Though if you want to get into the deep-end of sensory awareness it gets difficult to prove the existence of anything, - all may well be an illusion dontcha know?
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More of an illusion than most people would like to accept I suspect..though of course impossible to know..
A dog thinks "This man feeds me, loves me, grooms me, houses me, pets me, and takes good care of me. He must be God."

A cat thinks, "This woman feeds me, loves me, grooms me, houses me, pets me, and takes good care of me. I must be God"
You know whatever you do to eat well and stay healthy. You probably also do all you can to avoid exposing yourself to viral or bacterial infection.

But do you, however, exercise the same care when it comes to remaining “healthy in faith”? (Titus 2:2)

Are you, for example, alert to the danger posed by insidious doubts?

Some people seem oblivious to this danger. They leave themselves vulnerable to doubts by starving themselves spiritually. (Proverbs 26:24, 25)
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goodlife , there is only one way to stay 'healthy in faith' ..avoid religion like the plague.
Good on the Archbishop Oil-Well....a pragmatist at last.....

how much a barrel for CofE hype?
goodlife, how do you parse what you said as to proverbs 24 with the actual in the Bible?

English Standard Bible (and the rest ain't much different) 'Whoever hates disguises himself with his lips and harbors deceit in his heart' or is this your attempt at propaganda and deceit?
jomifl; // ..avoid religion like the plague. //

In doing so, does it ever occur to you, that not only might you be, as goodlife says, starving yourself of a spiritual aspect to your own existence (your choice, of course), but that by being unable to accommodate fully the fabric of your own cultural history and identity, and by not being able to associate and perhaps modify your outlook to encompass your religious heritage to a modern age, and by a consistent negation and ridicule of religion by your materialism and 'rationality', you might also be alienating yourself from a better understanding of European history, art, literature, music and language, thereby leaving not only for yourself, but for your society an enormous vacuum, a void in which now attempts are being made to be filled by the adherents of the totally alien force (IMO) of Islam?

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Khandro,
/n doing so, does it ever occur to you, that not only might you be, as goodlife says, starving yourself of a spiritual aspect to your own existence (your choice, of course), but that by being unable to accommodate fully the fabric of your own cultural history and identity, and by not being able to associate and perhaps modify your outlook to encompass your religious heritage to a modern age, and by a consistent negation and ridicule of religion by your materialism and 'rationality', you might also be alienating yourself from a better understanding of European history, art, literature, music and language, thereby leaving not only for yourself, but for your society an enormous vacuum, a void in which now attempts are being made to be filled by the adherents of the totally alien force (IMO) of Islam?/

Islam is a religion too....:-)
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Khandro, you may believe that your predilection for things metaphysical, 'spiritual' and religious gives you a greater insight into everything than mere atheists, but as you don't seem to have any real understanding of atheism then perhaps your opinions don't amount to much on this subject.
I can do patronising too....
If God put us on Earth to help others. Then what are the 'others here for?
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Togo, perhaps they haven't arrived yet?
If one is incapable of doubt, one is incapable of proper analysis.
I'm unsure why this is that surprising. Maybe it's the fact that it's been admitted to.
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O_G, he is beginning a long and difficult path....
jomifl; //you don't seem to have any real understanding of atheism//

What is there to understand? Please enlighten us.
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What you don't seem to understand Khandro is that atheism not only does not preclude a comprehension of the items on list you posted at 00:01 but it perhaps allows a view of historical events untinted and undistorted by the lens of religious bigotry and the muddled thinking that it encourages. Atheism is not an idealogical vacuum since it doesn't preclude the values of fairness, equality and honesty which are missing from most religions.

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