Would You Die For This Country?

[Colmc54]

The government is launching a multi-million pound army recruitment campaign, there must be a reason why. The country in question is the UK, soon not to be the UK if the people currently resident in Scotland decide to jump ship.

So my question is would you die for your country? What would you actually think you were giving your life for, and could the bravest stance be if nobody signed up to serve in the army of the party-political playground of psychopathy that is the politics of our state.

If your answer is yes, as someone who will be 60 this year whose answer is no, would you mind explaining to me why you could possibly be so inclined?

[DTCwordfan]

Wasn't it Madonna scoring with Guy Ritchie?

[Peter Pedant]

If it were Madonna scoring, I think I might have watched the match

butsurely but surely this is a thread about dying for ones country
and not er diving for one's country ?

I refer of course to mimsy footballers falling to the ground and screaming their t=ts off and not the gallant but gay Tim Daley rperpesting his country

[TWR]

Fight for this place, you must be joking, we won Germany, Millions lost their lives, who are we dictated by? Ask the child molesters in Rochdale would they die for this Country.

[EcclesCake]

^^^. Cogent, coherent and comprehensive responses there!!! None of which I can understand......

To answer the OP yes, I would. I have served Queen and Country and will continue to do so.

[Hypognosis]

Pity there isn't a forfeit for "no attempt to remain upright in the penalty area".

[boxtops]

Digression, people....

In answer to the OP, I hope I never have to make the choice, but I would if I had to.

[boxtops]

^ ..but to protect our way of life and my family, not the Government or the EU or anything overarching.

[Baldric]

Then why do you stay here TWR?

[TWR]

The same as you Baldric, that's not the Question is it, so you tell me its right the way the pensioners who fought for this place and getting treated the way the do by this Government? More than likely you will defend them.

[Baldric]

Certainly would not defend them TWR, it's just that you seemed so disdainful of the UK I was wondering why you stayed.
With regard to the OP I spent the best part of 20 years in Uniform (RM's) so there is a time I could have died for this Country(Falklands War). Been back in Civvies for 20+ years, and from what I see now the answer would be No!

[TWR]

So you have come to the same conclusion as me, I will ask you the reason why?

[DTCwordfan]

For most of us here, this is all a bit theoretical, given our ages and circumstances, therefore I will, conditionally, say no. However, if confronted by a situation like 9-11 on a plane, then it would be a yes, not so much for the UK but for my family's memory that I went down in glory and in saving some of those poor buqqers who would otherwise be taken out by the terrorists.

[Baldric]

I'm lucky, I live in a pleasant bit of UK, no real population problems, we all just get on with it. I work for myself, I can set my own hours and income to a degree. That's the good bits, we no longer have the security of being an Island Nation thanks to the Chunnel and the Country is being handed over piece by piece for Europe to control, and as for immigration rates, I won't comment, I travel around, see bits of the UK I no longer recognise and would not want to live closeby. As I said it doesn't affect me directly atm, as and when it does I will look at relocating, the UK has been good for me
but I would not fight for what we have now, and I blame both the main polititical parties equally.
(good enough pal?)

[boxtops]

TWR said " so you tell me its right the way the pensioners who fought for this place and getting treated the way the do by this Government?"

I'd put the same argument for the demobbed ex-servicemen who have only just recently come out of the Forces, with no right to housing, benefits, etc., many of whom end up on our streets and with mental health problems. I don't call that just reward for putting themselves in the front line.

[Wharton]

Hypognosis - You're correct in what you say. I wasn't referring to the Highland Clearances (nice word for genocide), but, as you say, another matter entirely.

Chewn - You assume correctly. I hope England get gubbed in every match they play in Brazil.

Baldric - An Englishman with a sense of humour, how quaint, but refreshing. Keep it up lad.

DTC - Wait till you see the amount of fines imposed upon you by international law for deliberate mis-use of national funds (oil & and gas revenues). These will accrue to independent Scotland......and when you realise you have nowhere to park your Trident submarines we might let you keep them up and not charge you......much.

[TWR]

Exactly Boxy xx, as yourself Baldric, I have worked all my life, too young to do service, but pizzed off with way Governments treat the people who fought for this "Worlds Dumping ground" & that's what it has become, There is a sign in the Docks of France Pointing in the direction of England, under that it say's, the land of hand outs, no other country in the world would give away Benifits / Houses / even Jobs like they do here, It rattles me to see the way this Country is going, Yes It used to be Great Britain, but like the Titanic, it's going down fast, we the public put these and other clowns in power & what do you get in return, kicked in the B@lls with costs of living, the parasites reward themselves & fck the public, regards defence, what defence do we have? Recuitment, is that recruitment on the cheap? it looks that way, the Tunnel, that's no problem, that can be blown.

[Hypognosis]

Incidentally, I have seen one particular north sea carve-up map online (can't remember which newspaper, sorry) and pulled that "something bad is going to happen" face that people do.

The border is canted at an angle, rather than directly east-west. The person had extended this line, still at this angle, out into the north sea.

I was thinking there's no way the Scots going to accept anything less than a straight E-W line, heading out from where the border meets the coast.

We need this issue thrashed out in parliament before the referendum vote, otherwise it'll become a tedious post-match hassle point for decades to come.

It's a divorce: might as well do it right.

[modeller]

When you go to war you are Not fighting for a piece of land but your way of life especially your family. So those on here saying they would not die for their country are in effect saying they would not die for their family.
It's not a question of bravery, it's survival.

[Peter Pedant]

DTC - Wait till you see the amount of fines imposed upon you by international law for deliberate mis-use of national funds (oil & and gas revenues). These will accrue to independent Scotland......and when you realise you have nowhere to park your Trident submarines we might let you keep them up and not charge you......much
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DTC you will be relieved to know that you can rest in bed - international law has nothing to do with fining the UK for misuse of gas and oil revenues. [ the plaintiff would have no locus standi and the court no jurisdiction but other than that - bring on the fines ! ]

I had to read it a few times to discover what he had said
wasting I must say - three minutes of my life....