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bednobs | 22:00 Tue 16th May 2023 | ChatterBank
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following a q on university challenge yesterday, i have been looking up the order of adjectives - a grammar rule that native english speakers always follow even if they don't know it. the rule is that multiple adjectives are always ranked accordingly: opinion, size, age, shape, colour, origin, material, purpose.
so you would never say the little poor dog - only the poor little dog. Another example, you would never say the leather brown walking scruffy shoes, you would say the scruffy brown leather walking shoes.

that led me (via an article) to the rule of ablaut reduplication, which the vowels have to come in a certain order (I then A then O) so you wouldnt say zag zig or raff riff, but zig zag and riff raff.
this isnt a question, but, as i said fascinating (to me at least!)
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Good evening, AB's Susie Dent......
As I was told when I came top in English in my 1st year at a good Northern Grammar School, but confessed to ignorance of several 'basic' rules "The best pupils are the ones who read a lot of good English. They don't know why they do it correctly, but they do it by nature."
No wonder English is so hard to learn. Other countries think we are lazy at learning to speak another language, but we've had a tough time learning our own!
TheWinner - that reminds me of a language joke....

What do you call someone who speaks three languages?
Answer - Trilingual or 'trilingue' in French.

What do you call someone who speaks two languages?
Answer - Bilingual or 'bilingue' in French.

What do you call someone who speaks only one language?
Monolingual?
No -
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.
Answer - American or English.
very good!

When I stayed with relatives in America, I didn't realise they didn't always understand me. The first question was usually "Hi, how long are you here for?"
Me: "A fortnight"
They don't know what a "fortnight" is. . .
the British no longer know what a sennight is , though they used to.
Also happens in German (and no doubt other languages, too):
https://yourdailygerman.com/order-of-adjectives-german/
"old dark house" is more or less a standard phrase, but you can say "dark old house" without it sounding wrong.
The funniest question, was "how many times have you seen the Queen?"

Answer: "Every Christmas Day, about 3 o'clock"

They didn't get that either.
What a load of daft big old triangular purple french denim information.

Interesting though. Thanks bednobs.
Cue PP with a load of latin gobbledegook to disprove the theory!
Lankeela, I hope not. I don't understand PP when he is probably talking in English.
why the rude dig at someone who isn't on this thread, lankeela?
Backs up what I've always said, the most important thing to teach children is how to read and enjoy books of all types.
As long as the books contain the word sennight Roopower ;-)
For the last sennight, I have been spring cleaning my large, dusty, cobwebby house.
Nice one Tilly!
Tilly's address: The Spiders' Shack,
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Taranto, Italy
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