Any Sympathy For Mr Galloway?

[paraffin]

"Respect" MP George Galloway claims to have been sexually abused at the age of 11 by a school janitor.

Given the extremely controversial and, some may say, "reviled" figure that he is, does anyone have sympathy for him? Could that be what made him what he is today?

Or did he "get" what he "deserved"?

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-120082 7/I-victim-child-abuse-claims-George-Galloway. html

[Hazel104]

I didn't get the impression from the question or replies that Paraffin believes that he deservers it Birdie.

However the question is null and void as NO CHILD deserves to be abused do they?

[Quinlad]

It's a very weird question.

I'm not sure chucking in question marks allows you to stand back and claim it was simply in the name of debate. It's so leftfield, it's reasonable to assume the writer sees an argument to support the view.

If I started a thread asking: "Holly and Jessica - did they deserve to die because they're a couple of slags?' I'd expect people to have a pop at me. Framing it as a question then writing a response a few hours later, saying I don't think they did wouldn't really wash.

[Totterdown]

I agree with ludwig and Quinlad. It was how the question was asked with all the question marks and inverted commas that made this question not really very nice. Just why did paraffin use the words "get" and "deserved", both in inverted commas to highlight and emphasise what he obviously meant. I said before, maybe poor choice of words, but nevertheless that was what was put in the original question. Despite those hysterical (very few it might be said) rising to paraffin's defence the rest of us can read more into it.

[Totterdown]

Ignore what I said about ludwig. I do not agree with him.

[steg]

I don't think ANYBODY AT ANY AGE deserves to be abused, wither it be sexually, mentally or physically.

[jno]

birdie, the problem with this question (and my own) is that it's offensive. It doesn't matter whether paraffin believes it or not, or uses all the quote marks and question marks in the world. It's still an offensive suggestion - and so it's hardly surprising that people have made it clear they're offended.

[sp1814]

The problem with the question, other than it being pretty sick, is that it doesn't make sense chronologically.

Take Myra Hindley - she died of cancer fairly young. You could reasonably argue that she deserved that because of jet involvement in the Moors murders. But the 'karmic punishment' has to happen after the event, not before it.

[paraffin]

I think I need to bring this to a close.

It was never my intention to offend anyone by the content of this post. But I agree that I should have worded it better. The only thing I can say in my defence is that it was 3am, I was tired and I was just about to go to bed when I found the article about Mr Galloway. So I hastily worded it and then went to bed.

Therefore, without going into one of my long winded explanations, I stand corrected and will try to do better with any future posts.

END OF THREAD.

[jno]

true - 3.10am is no time to be on AB! Go in peace.

[Totterdown]

Very magnanimous of you paraffin. If only there were more like you prepared to do the same as you. Most people would have just gone away without a word. Thanks.

[Quinlad]

Agreed. :-)

[olddutch]

poor old paraffin.

i feel sorrier for you than george galloway !

[Totterdown]

I wouldn't go as far as saying that, olddutch. paraffin had the guts to admit his question could have been phrased better. A few politicians could take a leaf out of his book, including George Galloway (of course his abuse is excluded, no excuse for any form of abuse).

[olddutch]

Totts - still cant help feeling sorry for Paraffin - like a pack of hyenas on his back - beating him into submission - a blood sport.

Still got my doubts about the whole galloway story

[andy-hughes]

I applaud your honesty paraffin in realising, after thought, that you slipped into a common trap with written English - having your point understood in a different way from which you intended to convey it.

I am sure we can regard the issue as closed and move on.

[ReallyLegend]

Thats as maybe andy.
But in all honesty he still hasnt and it seems will not answer his own question.

did he "get" what he "deserved"?

Irrespective of the written word and context he hasnt said it even in his final explanation.
Not so much a pack of hyenas in my opinion just people with children shocked at the lack of any clarification regards mr galloway.

[olddutch]

RL - paraffins caved in - blokes held his hands up and thrown the towel in - how much more blood you want - feels like a pack of hyenas to me - give paraffin a break - the refs stopped the contest !

George Galloways in much better condition and who knows about the veracity of the story anyway !

[ReallyLegend]

Dutch he hasnt.Hes scurried away avoided the question and ended the debate.

Strangely like a politician . He could stand as a member as his ability to waffle whilst totally refusing to answer a straight question is evident to all.

[Totterdown]

paraffin held his hands up at 14.10 today saying, amongst other things, he did not mean to offend anyone, and it could have been worded better. He obviously took note of all the answers. Why should he have to justify it further to people like Really Legend? RL, move on to your next victim.

[ReallyLegend]

Totter no victim apart from george galloway.
Ive asked paraffin from the start of this thread did he "get" what he "deserved"?



He hasnt answered regarding mr galloway.

the thread is solely about mr galloway.

What seems to be the problem ?


AND GEORGE GALLOWAY IS THE ONLY VICTIM.

Not rocket science.