Sacked For Politically Incorrect Beliefs.

[paraffin]

A Christian doctor has been removed from an adoption panel for objecting to applications by homosexuals and lesbians wishing to adopt children. Is the doctor justified in putting her beliefs on religious grounds before the wishes of "gay" people? Or is she just an intolerant homophobic denying children a loving home?
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-120072 1/Christian-doctor-axed-panel-failing-gay-adop tion.html

[ELVIS68]

I make her right

[Ice.Maiden]

So do I, but I have absolutely nothing against gays and lesbians. I look at it that for whatever reasons, they have the chance of same-sex relationships, which's fine. It's not hurting anyone else, but men and women were put on this earth to breed, not two men, or two women, but one of each sex.
If a couple can't have children of their own, it's just nature's way, unfortunate as it may be.

[ReallyLegend]

I think the dr should have been tarred and feathered

then had a tyre place d roound their neck and petrol poured on them and set alight.


You may say thats extreme?


But then some folk would do that to homosexuals.


SO whos wrong ?�?�

[paraffin]

By chucking her off, they're sending out a message that political correctness takes priority over someone's religious beliefs. Aren't they?

[ELVIS68]

I`ve got nothing against gays or lesbians but I really do hate the mincer type gays, the Gok Wan types who drool about womens shoes...it`s sooo annoying

[paraffin]

ELVIS:

So that means you DO have something against them?

I know what you mean. But I can't help p!ss!ng myself when Alan Carr's on the telly and he's as bent as a dog's hind leg.

[Ice.Maiden]

Seems to me as though they just think she IS being un-PC, if that's the right expression.
She isn't. It's common sense that in the accepted way, a woman's born with reproductive organs, to be inseminated by a man. This either does, or doesn't, result in a pregnancy.
I'm not saying that two same-sex people can't love and nurture a child, but nature didn't intend for a child to be born of this union, and although you can get both men and women who're bad at parenting, I still believe that in the normal way, a child's better off with a mum and a dad, rather than two people of the same sex.

[ELVIS68]

As I said, I`ve nothing against someone being gay but the mincing really p!sses me off, it`s so overdone nowadays

Alan Carr is a prime example..is that his real accent or just his gay adopted accent?

[paraffin]

xxGiGixx:

Yes, but doesn't that also apply to those who sacked her?

[leyaenda]

they should have put a tyre over the doctors head and set him on fire


well they do that to gays


elvis gays hate mincing tioo

theres 2 gays haeve a cafe here
very nice guys from barcelona


but theres a couple of really hot maybe 19 year old spanish chicas stay nearby who have a gay friend called gabrielle


nowww

he makes norton and clary look like fkin marines



and the 2 gay guys absolutely hate him

i think its like hes giving them a bad name


or


liek if you stayed in a wee street like brookside and everryone was ok

except 2 chavvy divs stayed there

theyd p�ss you off
its similar

you follow?

[Ice.Maiden]

I respect what you're saying Gigi, but a new-fangled idea isn't always the right one.

[ELVIS68]

Baby Ps mother wasn`t straight in the head though

[paraffin]

The tragedy of baby P has nothing to do with this. His mother's sexuality had no part in his horrific death. That was a cheap dig, xxiGiGixx.

This subject's about whether or not this woman was fairly or unfairly sacked.

[Oneeyedvic]

By chucking her off, they're sending out a message that political correctness takes priority over someone's religious beliefs. Aren't they?

No, they are saying that English Law takes priority over religious beliefs (and quite rightly in my opinion).

There are several laws that I might disagree with - some on moral, some social and some on religious grounds. However, I still need to comply with them.

Are you seriously suggesting that if someone has a religious belief then they can break the law?

Wow - just read Leviticus before you go down that route.


Ice.Maiden - If a couple can't have children of their own, it's just nature's way, unfortunate as it may be. I assume that you are also against fertility treatment for couples who can't conceive as well? How about cancer cures? Surely on your argument, we shouldn't attempt to cure people since it is natures way of controlling the population?

[Gromit]

There will be plenty of people above who agree with her, but more importantly, the Law does not.

Regardless of her religious or moral beliefs, the law states that homosexuals can legally adopt and another different law states it is illegal to discriminate against homosexuals, punishable by a large fine.

It is clear this woman is unable to carry out the function of her job legally. If she is allowed to stay, they are wide open for litigation from homosexuals who have been refused. They have no option to remove her.

She may not be a homophobe, just indoctrinated by her faith. It is worrying that she did not seem aware of the law and her legal responsibilities when she got this job. Either that, or she is deliberately troublemaking. Either way, she is neither suitable or able to carry out her legal duties and should rightly be removed.

[youngmafbog]

So I wonder what will happen when they kick a Muslim of a panel for pretty much the same beliefs. Except I bet they wouldnt dare.

It may be the 21 Century but that doesnt mean we can play with nature. What bugs me here is that we are experimenting with kids.

Noo Labour lefty luvvie types think they can force everyone to have their ideals by law. But a law is only any good if it represtns the views of the real majority ie 90% or more. And it certainly wont change the playground bullying that is bound to occurr to many of these kids or the parents that ban their kids from going round there.

Playing with Nature is a foolish thing to do.

[WaldoMcFroog]

Oh really? You'll be having your immunisations reversed then, will you, youngmafbog? And those of any kids you have? Stop living in a house, because it interferes with nature? Get rid of your clothes..? You only eat organic, do you?

Lots of people committing the naturalistic fallacy - i.e. natural = good. Well, no. Is the loa loa, the African worm whose lifecycle requires it to burrow through people's eyes 'good'? Just because something is so-called "natural" it doesn't follow it is desirable or the best it can be.

And guess what? Rather than rely on feelings, we can actually examine whether having two gay parents rather than two heterosexual parents actually affects children negatively. Turns out, sexual orientation is not affected by the parent's sexual orientatio - it's almost like it's not a choice! Guess what else? Children of gay parents don't suffer bullying any more than other children. By the way, if the children of gay people did suffer more bullying, isn't that reason to stop the bullying? Since when does culpability lie with the victim?

Studies:

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/16938011?or dinalpos=47&itool=EntrezSystem2.PEntrez.Pubmed .Pubmed_ResultsPanel.Pubmed_DefaultReportPanel .Pubmed_RVDocSum

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/18194010?or dinalpos=1&itool=EntrezSystem2.PEntrez.Pubmed. Pubmed_ResultsPanel.Pubmed_DiscoveryPanel.Pubm ed_Discovery_RA&linkpos=2&log$=relatedarticles &logdbfrom=pubmed

16:48 Mon 20th Jul 2009