They Just Can't Help It Can They?

[ToraToraTora]

https://news.sky.com/story/labour-mp-kate-osamor-has-whip-suspended-after-gaza-comment-in-holocaust-memorial-day-post-13059039

[Hymie]

During the Nazi genocide of the Jews, it was largely unknown to the outside world – although limited reports were coming out, the Allies failed to investigate fully and the killing continued.

 

Today the world knows what is going on in Gaza, and some people don’t seem to care much.

[Untitled]

naomi

i'll take no lessons in shame from you. i am against genocide regardless of who commits it... the same cannot be said of everyone.

[naomi24]

Untitled, if you've been to death camps and still think as you do, you'll clearly take no lessons from anyone.

[youngmafbog]

No TTT, Marxists and Communists cant stop themselves.

In that respect I really do feel sorry for SKS.

[Untitled]

those experiences taught me a great deal about human brutality... though i still have mixed feelings about their remaining open as attractions (especially Sachsenhausen which is a bit like a horrid theme park) but that is irrelevant here

i fail to see why they should dim my horror about what israel is doing to gaza

[Untitled]

youngmafbog demonstrating once again that he is clueless about both marxism and communism lol

[Togo]

Osamor   ...   Abbot Mk2. She was suspened for saying it aloud. It is almost a left wing policy. A policy to strip the holocaust of it's Jewishness and claim it for themselves and any of their favoured alphabet people. Remember the socialist workers(non of them do) party rally a couple of years ago when they handed out a leaflet about the Holocuast that  described it as an unspeakable tragedy in which thousands of LGBT people, trade unionists and disabled people were slaughtered. No mention of the millions of Jews transported to hell camps and gassed. They deliberately ommitted the very peoples that the Holocaust was designed to destroy. A Jew free holocaust is their ideological dream with the next step in the develish agenda being blame the Jews for a Holocaust and ultimately the one that almost destroyed their peoples and then demand compensation. The mockery of a "trial" currently being conducted is hearing "evidence" from UN officials. The same corrupt organisation that employed at least a dozen of the murderous gunmen that slaughtered 1,200 helpless civilians without warning and commited rape before and after the acts. The vile creatures who rounded up the hostages were also working for the UN aid agency in Gaza. They probably provided evidence for the tribunal as well. They can't help themselves indeed. Any help that they offer to others is also false. 

[ToraToraTora]

Only untitled and co can compare the murder of 6m people by systematic extermination to the death of 26000 by collateral damage, mainly caused by terrorists basing their operations in among schools, hospitals and the general civilian infrastructure. As I said these are victims of Hamas. 

[ToraToraTora]

untitled: "youngmafbog demonstrating once again that he is clueless about both marxism and communism lol" - well at least he knows what genocide is.

[Untitled]

it's not collateral damage if it is inflicted on purpose

[ToraToraTora]

They are going after terrorists. Any non terrorist casualties are the very definition of collateral damage.

[Untitled]

except they aren't exclusively going after terrorists are they. where is the evidence of the "command centre" at al shifa hospital? if the IDF have good cause to bomb medical facilities why do they keep getting caught lying about it?

[ToraToraTora]

14:25 Ok what is your evidence for that?

IDF have been doing their utmost to avoid civilian casualties. Where as the Nazis transported 6m jews to the gas chambers in trains etc for orderly extermination and you really think that is comparable? Now I know you lefty types just love to be contrarian but seriously? Take a step back, are you really saying the 2 things are comparable? really? hand on heart?

[Untitled]

here's one for size 

https://www.france24.com/en/tv-shows/truth-or-fake/20231116-idf-claims-to-find-list-of-hamas-names-but-it-s-the-days-of-the-week-in-arabic
 

the majority of casualties inflicted by the IDF have been civilian so they are either terrible at targeting terrorists or they are not actually doing it:

https://amp.theguardian.com/world/2023/dec/09/civilian-toll-israeli-airstrikes-gaza-unprecedented-killing-study

 

[Untitled]

identical? of course not. but they are both acts of genocide

if holocaust remembrance isn't about preventing genocide then what use is it?

[ToraToraTora]

untitled; "the majority of casualties inflicted by the IDF have been civilian so they are either terrible at targeting terrorists or they are not actually doing it:" ....or the terrorist scum are using them as human shields. Now have a go at my questions at 14:31.

[Untitled]

i thought i answered those. the holocaust is not the first example would compare it with... i think it is closer in nature perhaps to the genocide of indigenous people in north america. but i do not think it is invalid to compare them no. 

[ToraToraTora]

untitled you said : "it is deeply hypocritical to mourn the victims of one genocide while egging on another one taking place right now in the modern world. " - so 6m systematic exterminations = N collateral damage in lefty land? Right oh!

[Untitled]

i don't think they are comparable in numbers. but i think they are in intent.

[ToraToraTora]

14:53, how? the jews were systematically rounded up and murdered. There is no comparison.