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Labour 17,845 ---- Tories 1,192

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Canary42 | 08:35 Fri 06th Oct 2023 | News
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Rutherglen & Hamilton By-election result.

 

Labour 17,845

SNP 8,399

Tories 1,192

Liberal Dems 895

Green 601

 

 

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  Don't know why the Tories bothered putting a Candidate up for this election with the piddling little vote they won .  How embarrasing for their candidate.

Neither do I gulliver but I doubt they expected to do well so were well prepared for a poor result.  

Ichkeria 09.37 Nah. Labour 17,845 ----Tories 1,192 .Reads better .It makes a better cutting headline ,and brings it to peoples attention.🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣.

I don't suppose you mind it being misleading, gulliver - and it is.  The SNP were ousted - not the Tories.  Still, it suits a purpose.

You don't seem to have fathomed the basic idea: in Scotland it's Labour v SNP. Labour v Tory in a central lowland Scottish seat is an irrelevance.

Naomi 10.19 The SNP were ousted the Tories were levelled up flattened

Ichkeria 10.21 Oh yes I have got the basic idea .Tory and Snp lost  .And Labour won,  it's as simple as that OK.

yes I think "simple" is apt.

// That means 63% of the constituancy couldn't be bothered to pick one of the candidates. //

i wonder if there are any figures quantifying how many of that 63% did actually turn up, but were refused entry because their voter ID was ruled offside?

TTT.Labour won with an outstanding Victory.Take a deep breath and Suck it up.

Good news for Labour, may well be the trend in Scotland for now.

 

Labour will need to win a lot of seats in Scotland if they are to get through the door of no 10.

As I commented above, Sir John Curtice estimates they would take 40 seats from the SNP on that swing. As I also said, though, how Labour does also depends on the extent to whixh people vote FOR them rather than against the SNP or the Tories. If people cast a vote to get rid of the Tories in England and Wales then that can benefit several other parties and in Scotland might even help the Tories in a few seats. I'm not sure in how many seats that would be a realistic possibility.

The Tory share of the vote fell so low, that they lost their deposit, after failing to win over 5% of the vote share.

Trying to get some sense back into this thread it will be interesting to see how this pans out.

With such a low turnout one has to wonder if that would happen in a GE or will SNP members turn out for that?  And those that did turn out to poke the SNP in the eye would they do that in a GE?  It's one thing voting to show your disgust in a by-election, quite another in a GE.  The pen will hover but where will it land.

I personally dont think the SNP are dead and gone just yet.  If they get rid of the uselss leader and embark on a difernt tack-who knows what might happen.

I wonder if, when Keir Starmer is crowing about the "massive" Labour party victory, he will mention that two thirds of the electorate couldn't even be bothered to vote at all.

Hardly landslide material.

And as I have said before, he could end up doing a Kinnokio, people dont like early celebrating.

The low turnout probably isn't relevant. The assumption that it was all SNP voters that stayed away seems a bit optimistic. I'd imagine Rutherglen rain soaks the voters of other parties just as much.

As in the rest of GB with the Tories the SNP have been in power a long while, so the feeling that a change is due may well outlast the by-election season 

In the 3 by-elections in July the turnouts were 44, 44, and 46% so this is poorer but not by as much as you might think, and the weather in the area yesterday featured rather a lot of rain. 

I hope it doesn't rain on General Election day or all the parties will be in trouble.

If that is an excuse for not voting, it is absolutely pathetic!

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