This Is How You Do It .....Part Deux

[ToraToraTora]

Now I'd buy this guy a pint for showing the way......

[andy-hughes]

Thanks.

Not sure how you would ever think otherwise, unless you mixed me up with someone else!

Never mind - on we go ...

[ToraToraTora]

I may have mixed you up with untitled on other threads, apologies.

[andy-hughes]

I figured so.

No worries, easily done, apology accepted of course, thank you.

[wolf63]

If the protest makes us feel frustrated we should be glad that we are not Police Officers.

I bet that they are itching to arrest the protesters. Maybe they should get some of the German police doggies to encourage them to move.

[retrocop]

//If the protest makes us feel frustrated we should be glad that we are not Police Officers.//

Quite right . I joined to uphold the law of obstruction and did so.
If I wanted to be a Lyons nippy at their corner house at Marble Arch serving out tea and biscuits and offering succour to those annoying people and enquiring of their comfort whilst they sit in the road annoying others I would. However we must prevent vigilantism
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[andy-hughes]

Retrocop - Is your comment about preventing vigilanteism series?

It's not easy to tell in print, and as expressed on the previous thread, I am interested in your view.

[retrocop]

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Mustn't they. Robust and correct policing always prevented anarchy and vigilantism. They are going about it wrongly and it isn't working.

[andy-hughes]

Retrocop - If I understand you correctly, you believe that the police should physically remove the protesters, and arrest them if they refuse to comply.

I would entirely agree.

But what is your view on members of the public reacting with violence and assaults, as the news clips show?

[ToraToraTora]

stand down you two, I don't want another thread hijacked. Please start another thread if you want a scrap.

[andy-hughes]

TTT - No 'scrapping' here.

I am asking a question, depending how Retrocop responds, we will have a discussion, and hopefully others will join in, or we will drop it here.

Either way, no scrapping - it takes two, and I will not be dragged in again - promise.

[Tilly2]

Are water cannons available?

[retrocop]

TTT
I have no intention for a scrap. You might have noticed that I have no intent on a debate with a serial antagonist. I can show restraint and choose who and when I debate with. I am not renowned for disrupting other threads and I hope you will allow me to join in your debate with others. Moving on.

[andy-hughes]

Guess we're leaving it there then!!

[jourdain2]

Back from a few days off (attending a family wedding in Devon) may I just say that I am baffled that the police don't simply remove the protesters physically? That would obviate all the problem areas. I'm fairly sure that they are committing some sort of offence in blocking the roads against law-abiding people. Standing at the side and waving placards etc. would be fine. I'm probably being naive, sorry - but I really, really don't understand how all this is happening. The one time I was on a demo. we didn't stop the Councillors from entering City Hall (they wanted to close our school for economic reasons - we got the best results in the area). This stuff is alien and not acceptable - so the police should act.

[andy-hughes]

Jordan- If you, and indeed all of us, can see the simple and effective remedy to this nonsense, then clearly the police can see it as well.

I can only presume they are constrained by factors that do not appear obvious.

It is equally clear that these restraints need to be removed, and quickly, before the virtually exhausted patience of the public leads to serious injury or death.

[ToraToraTora]

AK/retro, thanks both.

[ToraToraTora]

AH/Retro! doh!

[andy-hughes]

I've been called many things on here, but a serial antagonist' has quite the ring to it.

It's nonsense, but it sounds quite exotic!!

[ToraToraTora]

AH: "It is equally clear that these restraints need to be removed, and quickly, before the virtually exhausted patience of the public leads to serious injury or death. " - that is really the thrust of this post, we must make it possible for the police to do their jobs before the public do it for them rather more clumsily.

[fender62]

if you have ever seen the film soylent green, maybe we need some scoop trucks..