St Donald Raped! Rioting Amongst Extreme Rt Tories In Middle England

[Peter Pedant]

Donald Trump's family confirmed that a house of the father's had been raided by FBI agents searching for retained White House papers.

https://www.nytimes.com/live/2022/08/08/us/trump-fbi-raid

The law (in the Land of Free that is!) is straightforward. Title in the papers resides in the authorities and are NOT the personal property of the sitting president or thereafter. ABers wgi are not demented will recollect ( dimly perhaps) that this change was effectted after the wholesale destruction of papers during the Nixon admin.

er ABers need a question - is it fair that someone so fair, so dedicated to the good of he people so selfless, should be treated thus?

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will you be tucking in to humble pie if it turns out you’re wrong spicerack or will you just continue to insist you know more than everybody else

[FatticusInch]

Lol, which planet is Spicerack currently on?
Your hero is realising that crooked behaviour inevitably has its consequences but especially putting the integrity of the constitution in grace danger as he did.
The day of reckoning is approaching.

[Spicerack]

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//a raid like this would have required establishment of probable cause and approval by a federal judge… probably the attorney general too considering his high profile…//

As tough as getting Fisa warrants then?

//obviously we will see what it turns up… his supporters might start killing people again though//

What people have Trump supporters killed?

[Spicerack]

I wouldn't say I know more than everybody else, entitled.
I certainly know a lot more than you do. Nothing to write home about, I know.

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Not an American but Alexandre Bissonette killed or wounded nearly twenty muslims

James Fields ran over Heather Heyer and killed her

Nikolas Cruz killed 17 high schoolers after being radicalised by pro-Trump instagram accounts

Jeremy Christian stabbed two people to death for intervening in his racist and pro-trump ramblings

then there are all the bomb plots uncovered by trumpists... cesare sayoc sending pipe bombs to democrats, the bloomington mosque bombing, Ian Rogers and Jarrod Copeland conspiring to bomb tech companies for banning trump and of course democrats too...

then there is the violent attack on the capitol by a crowd of armed trumpists calling for mike pence to be hanged...

not hard to spot a pattern is it. They like combining violence and politics.

[Mozz71]

//Then there will be some real, honest inquiries.//

There seems to be little honest about American politics Spicey. Personally I think they should have an age limit of 65 for anyone wanting to run for the big job. Gets shot of both the Pres and the former Pres, along with much of the establishment. Now that's the kind of shake up that is needed.

[ichkeria]

It isn’t Trump’s age that’s the problem.
Could you imagine a younger version of that in the White House?
Similarly Biden at the age he is now, whatever people might say, is a saner, wiser politician than the vote-chasing wannabe of his earlier years

[Spicerack]

I honestly thought these latest shenanigans would be a 'wake-up' call for some of you.
A David Mitchell moment;

[FatticusInch]

ichkeria
//It isn’t Trump’s age that’s the problem.
Could you imagine a younger version of that in the White House?//

There was, Martin Sheen.

Good film, The Dead Zone with Christopher Walken.

[FatticusInch]

Lol Spicey, is David Michell portraying Henry Tarrio or Alex Jones?

[Khandro]

I suspect they will find zilch as always, though there is always the possibility of planting.
This is giving Trump an enormous boost, not only will he put himself forward for GOP nomination, he'll win the election to boot.

[Zacs-Master]

Khandro, back in a thread in Jan 21 you wrote 'I don't think, or want, him to run for office, he will be 75 next June'

What, in the intervening period, changed your mind?

[Khandro]

Events, dear boy, events.

[Zacs-Master]

Very specific. Thanks.

[Peter Pedant]

considering how trump used to ask his appointees:
are you my man?
I had to laugh at his complaint that the justice system was being polarised

at least one director of the FBI ( not all of them?) said no mr president I owe allegiance to the flag and constitution of this great country.
and didnt last long

[FatticusInch]

Khandro
//I suspect they will find zilch as always, though there is always the possibility of planting.//

Lol yeah, from a search by the FBI that would have been videoed from even before they set foot in his property.
If he’s clean he should have nothing to worry about and would welcome the opportunity to clear or absolve himself, won’t he?
But don’t let your conspiracy theory get in the way of due process.

[Khandro]

What do you mean "videoed", there were loads of agents, and they were all over the house, they even, he says, looked in his wife's wardrobe! & they broke into his safe which reports say was empty.

They knew Trump was away in New York, everyone in the house was ordered out, everyone!

The whole thing is an outrage; no ex-President in the history of the United States has ever been subjected to this.

Do you really think this was acceptable?

[bednobs]

well yes. The law should apply to everyone i think, no matter what their job has been in the past. it surely IS some 3rd world banana republic if its ex - politicians can be granted immunity by dint of their previous job?

[Togo]

//They knew Trump was away in New York, everyone in the house was ordered out, everyone!//

Guaranteed to "find something" then.

[FatticusInch]

Khandro
//What do you mean "videoed", there were loads of agents, and they were all over the house, they even, he says, looked in his wife's wardrobe! & they broke into his safe which reports say was empty. //

Tell me you’ve actually heard of body-worn cameras? I’d hazard a guess that each and every agent who entered that property did so to the letter of the law, especially in light of who they’re dealing with and the possible repercussions?
You believe him when he says they looked in his wife’s wardrobe(like they wouldn’t anyway?) but refuse to believe he didn’t advocate the hanging of Mike Pence on January 6th?
PMSL, you’ll take his word for that but not those of his Secret Service agents and aides at a congressional investigation who have testified under oath as to what they saw and heard on that day?
Must be really lonely on your planet! Lol.