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More Big Brother Or "Nothing To Hide Nothing To Fear"?
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I am interested in what our learned ABers think, I am on the fence for the moment.
I am interested in what our learned ABers think, I am on the fence for the moment.
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//He doesn’t need them, GCHQ already have those at the press of a button.//
Being deliberately thick again? GCHQ has no agenda to fine or impose costs and restrictions on individual citizens. It has no legislative, administative, or policy making brief and isn't in the business of harvesting our data to line its own pockets or impose a political ideology by stealth. Remember that if the extremists, from either wing, ever get into power that these systems will still be operational. They will control them, and then you won't need someone like me to point out that they were a bad idea waiting for the right time to show how bad. When all these surveilance systems are finally used to decide who gets what and when, and who goes where and when, it will be too late to "notice".
Being deliberately thick again? GCHQ has no agenda to fine or impose costs and restrictions on individual citizens. It has no legislative, administative, or policy making brief and isn't in the business of harvesting our data to line its own pockets or impose a political ideology by stealth. Remember that if the extremists, from either wing, ever get into power that these systems will still be operational. They will control them, and then you won't need someone like me to point out that they were a bad idea waiting for the right time to show how bad. When all these surveilance systems are finally used to decide who gets what and when, and who goes where and when, it will be too late to "notice".
... and the system could do with a little improvement
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Togo
//He doesn’t need them, GCHQ already have those at the press of a button.//
/Being deliberately thick again? GCHQ has no agenda to fine or impose costs and restrictions on individual citizens./
Lol, I think you’ll find their remit goes way beyond such paltry measures.
But don’t let your paranoia get in the way of that.
You sound more alarmist than the lefties mentioned in the link.
//He doesn’t need them, GCHQ already have those at the press of a button.//
/Being deliberately thick again? GCHQ has no agenda to fine or impose costs and restrictions on individual citizens./
Lol, I think you’ll find their remit goes way beyond such paltry measures.
But don’t let your paranoia get in the way of that.
You sound more alarmist than the lefties mentioned in the link.
Nothing to hide nothing to fear ?
Except trigger-happy cops.
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Except trigger-happy cops.
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Sian Berry is the Green Party candidate for London Mayor.
She is wrong. TfL already have this data, so of course they should be able to make it available to the police if requested to do so.
Every car has an identifying number plate, and every other driver, onlooker or dash-cam can read it and record it if they want to.
I suspect her motive is more anti police, anti men than privacy concerns.
She is wrong. TfL already have this data, so of course they should be able to make it available to the police if requested to do so.
Every car has an identifying number plate, and every other driver, onlooker or dash-cam can read it and record it if they want to.
I suspect her motive is more anti police, anti men than privacy concerns.
I agree.
I'm also in the "Nothing To Hide Nothing To Fear" camp.
and so am I ! I seem to get into the category of "these allegations ( sexx again: I am 70 and not as active as Sqad) are very serious, can you refute them? So serious they are, we dont have to prove: you have refute." And then damme - you find they had info / data that showed I wasnt in the frame and er kept it back ! ( standard interrogation technique)
Police: more info: more mess.
I'm also in the "Nothing To Hide Nothing To Fear" camp.
and so am I ! I seem to get into the category of "these allegations ( sexx again: I am 70 and not as active as Sqad) are very serious, can you refute them? So serious they are, we dont have to prove: you have refute." And then damme - you find they had info / data that showed I wasnt in the frame and er kept it back ! ( standard interrogation technique)
Police: more info: more mess.
Yeah and what about the poor junior doctor who was reading his Harrison Textbook of Internal Medicine in Palma whilst his eleven pals went hell raising.
He was included in the 11 ( yeah so equals 12 yeah) for riotous behaviour in Palma on the Spanish doctrine of "common purpose". And then had to face the GMC on the grounds of foreign conviction.
that would be one to forget
He was included in the 11 ( yeah so equals 12 yeah) for riotous behaviour in Palma on the Spanish doctrine of "common purpose". And then had to face the GMC on the grounds of foreign conviction.
that would be one to forget
//Remember that if the extremists, from either wing, ever get into power that these systems will still be operational. They will control them, and then you won't need someone like me to point out that they were a bad idea waiting for the right time to show how bad.//
Fats ... You ignored this.^ Again I suppose we must consider this oversight as caused by a lack of comprehension skills. Also lacking in civility and courtesy, but that is demonstrated on a daily basis.
Fats ... You ignored this.^ Again I suppose we must consider this oversight as caused by a lack of comprehension skills. Also lacking in civility and courtesy, but that is demonstrated on a daily basis.
Togo
//Remember that if the extremists, from either wing, ever get into power that these systems will still be operational. They will control them, and then you won't need someone like me to point out that they were a bad idea waiting for the right time to show how bad.//
/Fats ... You ignored this.^ Again I suppose we must consider this oversight as caused by a lack of comprehension skills. Also lacking in civility and courtesy, but that is demonstrated on a daily basis./
I didn’t ignore anything, I just didn’t give it any credence as most didn’t either if their replies are anything to go by.
As for the civility and courtesy I can’t help it that your sensibilities were hurt. Maybe don’t start with the insults if you can’t withstand a retort?
Just because you’re paranoid doesn’t mean they’re all out to kill ya.
//Remember that if the extremists, from either wing, ever get into power that these systems will still be operational. They will control them, and then you won't need someone like me to point out that they were a bad idea waiting for the right time to show how bad.//
/Fats ... You ignored this.^ Again I suppose we must consider this oversight as caused by a lack of comprehension skills. Also lacking in civility and courtesy, but that is demonstrated on a daily basis./
I didn’t ignore anything, I just didn’t give it any credence as most didn’t either if their replies are anything to go by.
As for the civility and courtesy I can’t help it that your sensibilities were hurt. Maybe don’t start with the insults if you can’t withstand a retort?
Just because you’re paranoid doesn’t mean they’re all out to kill ya.
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