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Lockdown Looming ?
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In light of the news that today is the highest daily figure of Covid infections since the pandemic began and Big Bad Boris will give a news briefing at 17.00
Is a lockdown in the offing ?
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Incoming !! Lol
Is a lockdown in the offing ?
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Incoming !! Lol
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//My heart goes out to the young people who don't know where the hell they are. At their age 18-38 - I was having a ball and a fantastic one too.//
I can assur eyou they all are , lifes pretty much the same as it use to be now, unis open (though still some part online), schools open , bars and clubs open, parties are taking place, relationships and one nightstands still happening, they still hang around town centres at night here, and they still have there phones and netflix and Tiktok
I can assur eyou they all are , lifes pretty much the same as it use to be now, unis open (though still some part online), schools open , bars and clubs open, parties are taking place, relationships and one nightstands still happening, they still hang around town centres at night here, and they still have there phones and netflix and Tiktok
well I was talking to my friend today and she and her husband ventured into Belfast albeit reluctantly last week I think - she couldn't believe how empty it was at a time "at the mouth of Christmas" - saying for near Christmas - they also tried to get in somewhere for a meal or so - husband's Covid pass on the phone worked but whilst she had hers on her phone couldn't get access to it (technical reasons) and so they had to go home - so it's not all roses. Bobbin
//…so it's not all roses. Bobbin//
No it most certainly isn’t, jenny. Of course the irony of your friends’ problems with the Covid pass is that her husband may have been carrying Covid but would have been admitted to the restaurant whereas his wife may have been uninfected but denied entry. Such is the “logic” of the government’s so-called preventative measures. But what would I know – I only think things through rather than devise knee-jerk reactions.
It is now very apparent that the mental health and general wellbeing of large numbers of the population are suffering badly with this constant aura of fear and threats of restrictions. This is especially so of younger people whose lives and education have been in turmoil for the past eighteen months. They might have their phones and Netflix and TikTok. But they don’t have the certainty and stability that they need. Two schools near me have finished the term a week early and have said that the new term’s resumption will certainly be delayed. Two of my local restaurants, both of which only just survived last year’s debacle, have had buckets full of Christmas cancellations. I was on the coast for a couple of days last week and one restaurant we used had two parties (totalling 20 covers) cancelled on Thursday night. Things are very far from rosy indeed and until somebody realises the huge collateral damage that is being caused here, they will deteriorate rapidly.
No it most certainly isn’t, jenny. Of course the irony of your friends’ problems with the Covid pass is that her husband may have been carrying Covid but would have been admitted to the restaurant whereas his wife may have been uninfected but denied entry. Such is the “logic” of the government’s so-called preventative measures. But what would I know – I only think things through rather than devise knee-jerk reactions.
It is now very apparent that the mental health and general wellbeing of large numbers of the population are suffering badly with this constant aura of fear and threats of restrictions. This is especially so of younger people whose lives and education have been in turmoil for the past eighteen months. They might have their phones and Netflix and TikTok. But they don’t have the certainty and stability that they need. Two schools near me have finished the term a week early and have said that the new term’s resumption will certainly be delayed. Two of my local restaurants, both of which only just survived last year’s debacle, have had buckets full of Christmas cancellations. I was on the coast for a couple of days last week and one restaurant we used had two parties (totalling 20 covers) cancelled on Thursday night. Things are very far from rosy indeed and until somebody realises the huge collateral damage that is being caused here, they will deteriorate rapidly.
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It would be economic and social madness. Also I can't believe how many people are now canceling Christmas parties off their own backs without any instruction from government. What's wrong with people, have they been completly brainwashed into total fear?
Maybe they are relatives of those who succumbed to Covid ?
Maybe they had Covid and had a rough time of it and do not want to experience it again ?
Maybe they want to ensure they will have some semblance of a Christmas they did not have last year ?
Maybe some work in the care industry ?
Who knows ?
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It would be economic and social madness. Also I can't believe how many people are now canceling Christmas parties off their own backs without any instruction from government. What's wrong with people, have they been completly brainwashed into total fear?
Maybe they are relatives of those who succumbed to Covid ?
Maybe they had Covid and had a rough time of it and do not want to experience it again ?
Maybe they want to ensure they will have some semblance of a Christmas they did not have last year ?
Maybe some work in the care industry ?
Who knows ?
Ha.. are you saying its seasonal or that lockdown leads to more infections. Am sure you know really about cause and effect...to me it shows lo kdowns were needed because the predictions of fast spread wetecrifhr and would of been worse without lockdown.
Hope we don't have another but if its tge only option other than newjudges just let it rip then so be it. Its not as if any other country as found a better solution.
Cue long answer from newjudge reinterpreting all the science and dismissing medical expertise....
Hope we don't have another but if its tge only option other than newjudges just let it rip then so be it. Its not as if any other country as found a better solution.
Cue long answer from newjudge reinterpreting all the science and dismissing medical expertise....
A lockdown will only happen this time if the NHS looks at serious risk of being completely overwhelmed, and at the moment no one knows if that will happen, so the idea that "they" have already decided to have one on Jan 5 is ridiculous - sounds like a rumour based on something being wrongly overheard. Lockdowns are bad not only for the economy, vbut they also postopone the inevitable, flatten the curve, and now most people have been vaccinated.
A combination of mass boosters and people acquiring antibodies through catching mild forms of it is the best way to control it long term.
On the other hand in the meantime voluntarily cancelling Christmas parties is eminently sensible.. A general easing off of social contacts indoors is a good thing. Nicola Sturgeon has had dogs' abuse for her sensible advice. The government in England should be doing the same.
A combination of mass boosters and people acquiring antibodies through catching mild forms of it is the best way to control it long term.
On the other hand in the meantime voluntarily cancelling Christmas parties is eminently sensible.. A general easing off of social contacts indoors is a good thing. Nicola Sturgeon has had dogs' abuse for her sensible advice. The government in England should be doing the same.
I'm doing a little bit of work on the numbers. So far I am not surprised there are so many positive tests - the percentage of +ve seems remarkably consistent, the absolute numbers following quite closely to the number of tests undertaken (i.e. the more you test, the more you find). Yesterday's test numbers are not yet available but I'll be interested to see if yesterday's 77k infections show a different trend.
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15 jabs to freedom eh, Who knew this time last year when everyone was celebrating the rollout of the life saving vaccines that they would be still wearing masks and facing restrictions.
Lol
I do have to chuckle at those who believe the government have control over the way the nature of a virus will mutate or manifest itself in the future and thus can manipulate it for its own ends
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15 jabs to freedom eh, Who knew this time last year when everyone was celebrating the rollout of the life saving vaccines that they would be still wearing masks and facing restrictions.
Lol
I do have to chuckle at those who believe the government have control over the way the nature of a virus will mutate or manifest itself in the future and thus can manipulate it for its own ends
Well here's a surprise (and a perhaps a partial explanation for yesterday's "astonishing" increase in new Covid infections).
Yesterday 1,635,922 tests were recorded. 4.75% of them proved positive. This number of tests is the highest since 18th April and has only been exceeded four times since testing began. The percentage of positive tests yesterday was the highest since er....last Saturday and Sunday when the figures were 4.86% and 5.08% respectively.
Yesterday there were 61% more tests undertaken than last Sunday. The number of new infections yesterday was 51% higher than last Sunday. So, you test more people and you find more infections - but not quite so many more. Who would have thought it?
Yes, I've cherry picked the figures but I've also done some analysis on the numbers going back to the summer and there is firm evidence that if you test more people you find more cases. But at least they provide some context which is more than can be said for yesterday's apocalyptic announcement. I wait with bated breath to find out how many tests it took to reveal today's absolutely astonishing 87,000 new infections.
Yesterday 1,635,922 tests were recorded. 4.75% of them proved positive. This number of tests is the highest since 18th April and has only been exceeded four times since testing began. The percentage of positive tests yesterday was the highest since er....last Saturday and Sunday when the figures were 4.86% and 5.08% respectively.
Yesterday there were 61% more tests undertaken than last Sunday. The number of new infections yesterday was 51% higher than last Sunday. So, you test more people and you find more infections - but not quite so many more. Who would have thought it?
Yes, I've cherry picked the figures but I've also done some analysis on the numbers going back to the summer and there is firm evidence that if you test more people you find more cases. But at least they provide some context which is more than can be said for yesterday's apocalyptic announcement. I wait with bated breath to find out how many tests it took to reveal today's absolutely astonishing 87,000 new infections.
22:06, totally agree, nj.
Bobbin, no they aren't. I went to my granddaughter's Christmas play today. They weren't allowed one last year. She isn't even 6 yet, and when they finally went back to school after lockdown, and broke up for Easter holidays- she was genuinely delighted when I told her, she would actually go back to school after. She had only just started at nearly 5, and clearly believed school was just a brief aberration.
I have already said about the older people, who actually, genuinely need company, more than "safety"sometimes, but were not allowed to make that choice.
But to suggest that young people carry on as usual... is totally ignorant. My granddaughter was asking me to take her swimming again "when everyone is better". She was 3.
Bobbin, no they aren't. I went to my granddaughter's Christmas play today. They weren't allowed one last year. She isn't even 6 yet, and when they finally went back to school after lockdown, and broke up for Easter holidays- she was genuinely delighted when I told her, she would actually go back to school after. She had only just started at nearly 5, and clearly believed school was just a brief aberration.
I have already said about the older people, who actually, genuinely need company, more than "safety"sometimes, but were not allowed to make that choice.
But to suggest that young people carry on as usual... is totally ignorant. My granddaughter was asking me to take her swimming again "when everyone is better". She was 3.
Australia or New Zealand where they really have gone bonkers
most of them have been living normal lives for a year and a half, though there have been extended lockdowns in, I think, Melbourne and Auckland.
However, their lockdowns work, while Britain's haven't.
NZ death toll: 48. Australia: 2000. UK: 147,000
most of them have been living normal lives for a year and a half, though there have been extended lockdowns in, I think, Melbourne and Auckland.
However, their lockdowns work, while Britain's haven't.
NZ death toll: 48. Australia: 2000. UK: 147,000
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