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> //Why not just butt out and let them figure out how they want to handle things//
> They haven't done very well at that over the last century
Well I must say I didn't expect that answer. You seriously think, sitting as you do somewhere in Germany, that you're better placed to understand what's better for the people of Northern Ireland than those people who actually live there, and that if enough people like you think they should have a border with Eire then they should have that border, no matter what they themselves think. And you accuse the EU of being high-minded???
> They haven't done very well at that over the last century
Well I must say I didn't expect that answer. You seriously think, sitting as you do somewhere in Germany, that you're better placed to understand what's better for the people of Northern Ireland than those people who actually live there, and that if enough people like you think they should have a border with Eire then they should have that border, no matter what they themselves think. And you accuse the EU of being high-minded???
For the past 25 years the Euro sceptics have been saying we (the UK) must take charge of our own borders. That mantra reached a peak in 2016 at the referendum where the central slogan was “taking back control”. And so the we got back control and we did get back responsibility for our borders.
And at the first test we decide that it is too expensive and that we can’t afford to do it. And we won’t do it.
Now the Brexiters (nee Euro sceptics) say we don’t want to look after our border and the nasty EU are imposing it.
In the real world, a compromise has been agreed. If you want Brexit to work you should be supporting the NI protocol, not encouraging its wrecking.
And at the first test we decide that it is too expensive and that we can’t afford to do it. And we won’t do it.
Now the Brexiters (nee Euro sceptics) say we don’t want to look after our border and the nasty EU are imposing it.
In the real world, a compromise has been agreed. If you want Brexit to work you should be supporting the NI protocol, not encouraging its wrecking.
Khandro, you have expressed your personal opinion in most of the posts on this thread.
Whether or not you have lived and worked in the UK, as I have and do, unless you are currently living in Northern Ireland, I suggest that you leave them to figure out for themselves what's best for them, and then support their decision, rather than trying to make their decision for them from your remote spot. As I don't live in Northern Ireland, that's what I'm doing.
Whether or not you have lived and worked in the UK, as I have and do, unless you are currently living in Northern Ireland, I suggest that you leave them to figure out for themselves what's best for them, and then support their decision, rather than trying to make their decision for them from your remote spot. As I don't live in Northern Ireland, that's what I'm doing.
//If you want Brexit to work you should be supporting the NI protocol, not encouraging its wrecking.//
So you believe it is more acceptable to impose an internal border in a sovereign state (policed by foreign officials) than it is for the EU to find a way to protect the integrity of one of its members? Why is it more acceptable for NI to remain inside the customs union than it is for Ireland to operate outside it?
So you believe it is more acceptable to impose an internal border in a sovereign state (policed by foreign officials) than it is for the EU to find a way to protect the integrity of one of its members? Why is it more acceptable for NI to remain inside the customs union than it is for Ireland to operate outside it?
NJ,
An internal border would be a UK one staffed by Northern Irish people. It is the English people who have said they want to take back control. Except no one wants that. The ROI and NI people don’t want a hard border. The Governments in Dublin and London don’t want it either.
Perhaps the people in NI should have been consulted about staying in the customs union (and could still be). But they haven’t and London has imposed this agreement. It may not be perfect, but it achieves most of what the UK wants.
An internal border would be a UK one staffed by Northern Irish people. It is the English people who have said they want to take back control. Except no one wants that. The ROI and NI people don’t want a hard border. The Governments in Dublin and London don’t want it either.
Perhaps the people in NI should have been consulted about staying in the customs union (and could still be). But they haven’t and London has imposed this agreement. It may not be perfect, but it achieves most of what the UK wants.
But it was The First Minister, Arlene Foster's petition !!
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