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Khandro | 12:44 Fri 05th Feb 2021 | News
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If you want unfettered access for GB Northern Ireland trade you can sign here:

https://petition.parliament.uk/petitions/573209/signatures/new
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I know that the Republic has done nothing wrong. But neither has the UK. Both the UK and Ireland are perfectly content with no border in Ireland. It is only the EU that is not. If the EU is so protective of its Single market it is incumbent on them to do the protecting. They can do this either by asking the Irish to impose a border on the island or by imposing a border between Ireland an the rest of the EU. It's just as easy to do the latter (probably easier, in fact) as it is to split the UK into two. It's scarcely the fault of the UK that the EU is so insecure that it must protect itself against (what they term) "smuggling" across the Irish border. The UK:Ireland Common Travel Area was established about forty years before the EU's predecessors were even thought of. I would suggest it trumps the EU's Single Market by a country mile and if the EU wants to protect its market it should be compelled to find ways of doing it. In the "real world" into which you suggest my thoughts do not fit, sovereign nations do not see foreign officials installed on their territory, controlling the movement of goods within it. I see no reason why the integrity of the UK should be sacrificed to protect the integrity of the EU.

//If the EU hadn't done what it did the other week, this would not have arisen.//

I think it would. Tales coming from NI ports tell of obstruction to the movement of goods between the GB and NI when those goods have no likelihood of ending up across the border. The Protocol specifically says that such goods should not be subject to delay, inspection or rejection. It is clear that the EU is simply being obstructive. Mrs von der Leyen's action a couple of weeks ago simply provided added impetus and demonstrated that, despite all its bluster over the last four years, the EU has no respect whatsoever for the principle of a borderless Ireland. I discovered the process that should be adopted to trigger A16 in five minutes. Mrs von der Leyen should have done so as well. She might not have triggered it then without even the courtesy of a phone call to either Dublin, Belfast or London. It was no mistake; it was a demonstration of the bullying behaviour the EU exhibits when it feels threatened. More than that, it illustrates quite clearly that a borderless Ireland means not a jot to the Euromaniacs.
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ichkeria, As you are not British, you are ineligible to sign this petition anyway, so why are you so het up about it?
// why would they damage that because of Brexit which most people in NI didn't even want anyway? //

if NI is so overwhelmingly anti-Brexit, they could always cede themselves to the Republic. Simples.....
//It is clear that the EU is simply being obstructive. \\

Spot on again, NJ. The sole aim is to make life as difficult as possible for the UK for having the temerity to withdraw its money from the EU Ponzi scheme before the whole rotten structure goes tits up.
From what i see among the business sector,it is more likely the UK will go tits up long before the EU.I hope im wrong,but Rees-Mogg moving his business abroad doesnt augur very well,does it.
//The UK territory on Cyprus have remained in the EU Customs Union. Everyones happy.//

The area around Akrotiri is a British Overseas Territory. When Cyprus gained independence from the UK in 1960 the area was retained solely for the purpose of maintaining a military base there. As part of the independence agreement the UK undertook not to create customs posts or other frontier barriers between the Sovereign Base Areas and the Republic (of Cyprus). So another agreement which long pre-dated the EU and its precious Single Market. And, if you don't mind me saying so, not quite the same thing as the UK:Ireland situation at all.
"ichkeria, As you are not British, you are ineligible to sign this petition anyway, so why are you so het up about it? "

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I am British
What's more, I live in Britain unlike you I believe :-)
Still intending to apply for Irish citizenship though although I freely admit that's more "gesture politics" :-)
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ichkeria, If you are a British passport-holder then I stand corrected, the confusion may have arisen as you used to fly a Ukrainian flag on your avatar.

Perhaps you can then explain why you don't want unfettered access from the British mainland to Northern Ireland.
For God's sake Khandro ..

To both your points ...

The horse is flogged, the record cracked beyond repair. Just read the previous posts.
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The petition quickly reached the 10,000 needed, in short order & will now be discussed in parliament, but to the chagrin of those inexplicably opposed to it on this thread, it now has the backing of the Attorney General:

https://www.express.co.uk/news/politics/1394517/Brexit-news-boris-johnson-northern-ireland-protocol-suella-braverman-article-16-eu
You're not correct about the figure for a petition to be debated in Parliament and there is also no guarantee a petition will be debated anyway.

"At 10,000 signatures your petition on the UK Government and Parliament site gets a response from the government. At 100,000 signatures your petition on the UK Government and Parliament site will be considered for a debate in Parliament.

Debates

Petitions which reach 100,000 signatures are almost always debated. But we may decide not to put a petition forward for debate if the issue has already been debated recently or there’s a debate scheduled for the near future. If that’s the case, we’ll tell you how you can find out more about parliamentary debates on the issue raised by your petition."

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Spare your breath corby, sorry, I missed out a nought, it was already in the 900 thousands when I put up the OP!
What you are all missing (or avoiding) is that NI and the Republic of Ireland are ONE country, have always been so, and will be again.
"and will be again".Nae chance.That would be like giving in to the IRA scum.The 29 innocents murdered in the name of the Irish people at Omagh in 1998 would never lie easy in their graves knowing that their deaths were rewarded to the gunmen.
Geographically the north and south is one country, politically and religiously they will never be.
ALLENLONDON, if Ulster and the ROI already ARE one country, how WILL they be one country again?
A petition? To impose our will upon the people of Northern Ireland?

Why not just butt out and let them figure out how they want to handle things, given the mess they've been left with.
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Ellipsis: //Why not just butt out and let them figure out how they want to handle things//
They haven't done very well at that over the last century. Since partition, [3 May 1921] a key aspiration of Irish nationalists has been to bring about a reunited Ireland, with the whole island forming one independent state. This goal conflicts with that of the Unionists in Northern Ireland, who want the region to remain part of the United Kingdom. The British and Irish government agreed, under the 1998 Belfast Agreement, that the status of Northern Ireland will not change without the consent of a majority of its population, who don't want a change. So?
Allan we are not one country! We are 2 countries on one island.

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